Hamas War

Sunday, November 15, 2009

Bill Clinton, I Can Play Those "If" Games, Too

If Hillary had divorced Bill, she would be United States President today!
That's a lot truer than Bill's Rabin worship:
"There would be peace if Rabin were still alive"

Hat tip: IMRA


Considering that Clinton's judgment was lower than his charisma, why should anyone take him seriously?  Did Bill use his "Divorce is not an option" line to Hillary when caught in his extra-marital affairs?

As I've written numerous times, peace isn't up to us.  We're not at war against our neighbors.  The Arabs unabashedly declare that they want us dead and gone.  They attack, terrorize etc.  Israel just takes it, trying to invent various "defensive shields," and on the rare ocassions when we do fight back, we're condemned by the world.

Yitzchak Rabin's policies were not bringing Israel towards peace, just to a more weakened state when our enemies were (as always) planning our destruction.

There's nothing like death, especially a violent one, to turn a controversial figure into a "saint."  Israel's Left, supported by like-minded international figures and organizations, has so efficiently and professionally exploited Rabin's murder; you'd think they had orchestrated it...

7 comments:

Alinosof said...

Going by your standards, any politician who has been unfaithful to his wife, a private matter I may add, is automatically disqualified from passing judgment on current geopolitical crisis? This will disqualify about two thirds of our leadership in the U.S and who will run the country then? Oh,I know: the saints!

Batya said...

That is not what I said. I said that Hillary would probably be US Presidnnt if she had divorced him. Her "standing by her man" cost her the female vote. That's a lot stronger in fact than Bill's fantasy about Rabin and peace.

Alinosof said...

You're entitle to your opinion. I just don't see the link between Hillary's personal choice regarding her private life and her position on policies. Then again, we don't use the same criteria when voting for candidates.

Batya said...

And I don't see how Clinton can say that Rabin would have brought peace to the middle east. There's more of a chance that Hillary would have won if she had dumped Bill and shown some pride as a human being.

Unknown said...

Perhaps, had Rabin not been assassinated (and sainted) ...

Sufficient people would have realized that they needed to stand up to the Arabs that the "peace process" could have been shot circuited, Gush Katif not destroyed, ...

So maybe Bill Clinton was correct, just not in the way that he was implying.

Unknown said...

Based on Rabin's speeches just before he died, there may indeed have been peace.

See http://www.treppenwitz.com/2009/11/another-fallacious-argument.html

In his last speech to the Knesset before his assassination (presumably his last verifiable policy statement), Rabin categorically rejected the idea of a full fledged Palestinian State... rejected the idea of dividing Jerusalem... and rejected the idea of Israel returning to the pre-Six Day War borders.

But don't take my word for it... here is the quote directly from the Israeli Government's web site (with my emphasis in bold):

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/1990_1999/1995/10/PM%20Rabin%20in%20Knesset-%20Ratification%20of%20Interim%20Agree

"We view the permanent solution in the framework of [the] State of Israel which will include most of the area of the Land of Israel as it was under the rule of the British Mandate, and alongside it a Palestinian entity which will be a home to most of the Palestinian residents living in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

We would like this to be an entity which is less than a state, and which will independently run the lives of the Palestinians under its authority. The borders of the State of Israel, during the permanent solution, will be beyond the lines which existed before the Six Day War. We will not return to the 4 June 1967 lines.

And these are the main changes, not all of them, which we envision and want in the permanent solution:

A. First and foremost, united Jerusalem, which will include both Ma'ale Adumim and Givat Ze'ev -- as the capital of Israel, under Israeli sovereignty, while preserving the rights of the members of the other faiths, Christianity and Islam, to freedom of access and freedom of worship in their holy places, according to the customs of their faiths.

B. The security border of the State of Israel will be located in the Jordan Valley, in the broadest meaning of that term.

C. Changes which will include the addition of Gush Etzion, Efrat, Beitar and other communities, most of which are in the area east of what was the "Green Line," prior to the Six Day War.

D. The establishment of blocs of settlements in Judea and Samaria, like the one in Gush Katif."

Batya said...

Interesting spin and speech, but considering how far Left Israel's Right has gone, the "if's" don't hold much water. And the conspiracy crowd considers that speech Rabin gave as "motivation."