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Wednesday, March 16, 2011

"We Expected You To Kill Us..."

Someone I know has a business in YOSH, Judea-Samaria.  He employs a few Arabs, with whom he considers the relationship excellent. They are good workers.  He trusts them, and they have always shown him great respect.

On the day after the massacre of five members of the Fogel Family in Itamar, he expected his Arab workers to be at work on time, as usual.  They weren't, and they hadn't called in sick or reporting problems in passing security on the roads.

Finally, he reached them by phone:
"Why aren't you at work?"
"We expected you to kill us.  That's what we would have done.  An eye for an eye..."
Even after many years of working with Arabs, my friend had misread their mindset.  He was so sure that he had established a relationship that transcended politics, ideology and hatred.

It's not even enough to speak Arabic with Arabs to know them.  The Arab culture is very attuned to saying what will be accepted.  They don't consider it lying.  And it's certainly impossible to know them well if you speak to them in another language, Hebrew or English for example.  The Israeli and foreign academics who base their theories about Arabs and peace on the Arabs they know in non-Arabic relationships have no way to truly understand Arabs, because they don't know what's being said in the Arab speaking world.  Each language has its personality.

On the international TV newscasts about the post-earthquake life in Japan, the journalists asked one foreign resident if people are worried, because of all the radiation and other dangers.  But the replies describe rather normal life and stoicism, the Japanese characteristics.

11 comments:

HS said...

Did you watch this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=301G8fTOvYs&feature=player_embedded

Shy Guy said...

Figures HS doesn't want you to recall

Batya said...

HS, you're playing the well-scripted and rehearsed pr release.

Shy, I don't forget these things nor shut my eyes and ears.

HS said...

Sorry, I didn't understand.

Do you mean that the scene displayed there were made up?

Well, all the better, if at least, they feel the need to make up such a scene.

However, I think that reality is quite a bit simpler than that: different individuals have different opinions, on both sides of the fence.

I am sure that there are many arabs and muslims all over the world who are grossed out and appalled at this terrible attack.

I suppose that those who distribute sweets are on the margine, there might be a large mass of indifferent people in the middle, and there is a group who condemns such acts...

You tend to aim the lense at those who distributed sweets, this reporter chose to show a different reality. I suppose that both are true. Shivim Panim le bney adam...

Batya said...

HS, again stop your "supposing" and "thinking." Do you understand the original languages of the film you linked? The Arabs keep being told to "condemn terrorism/murder," so they say the words. But they don't do more than read the script. Their schools still teach hatred and the destruction of Israel and murder of Jews as an ideal.

HS said...

Why should I stop thinking? Is this what you want? People who will just comply with your opinion, without thinking for themselves?

Batya said...

Think in your own name, but don't project your values onto others. It's intellectually dishonest and dangerous for us.

Shy Guy said...

HS said...

Sorry, I didn't understand.

Do you mean that the scene displayed there were made up?

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No. The scene displayed there reflected the absurd dreams of Israel's CH10 that there are no problems by having a handful of Arabs say the right thing, when one poll after another - conducted by Arabs - says another.

You would also benefit by studying the effects on TV interviews of street people affects what they say when they know they're on camera and to whom they are talking to, versus anonymous polls where no one has anything to suppress or hide.

Don't stop thinking. Start.

HS said...

"It's intellectually dishonest and dangerous for us."

How can what I think be dangerous to you?

Are you afraid I will send you telepathic killerwaves? Or is it the famous butterfly wing effect?

Batya said...

dangerous for sure
That's how we gave the Arabs close launching pads to attack us. We must be alert to the dangers and not blind ourselves.

Shy Guy said...

Running on empty, HS?