Sunday, June 10, 2018

GUEST POST: Who Are the Palestinians

(a guest post by Mr. Cohen)

1. Who Are the Palestinians? by Yashiko Sagamori
2. What happened to the Philistines? by Mr. Cohen
3. Josephus and the Philistines by Mr. Cohen
4. Where did the Philistines come from? by Mr. Cohen
5. Where did the Philistines live? by Mr. Cohen
6. Four Quotes about Palestine
7. Why did the Olso peace treaty fail?
8. Articles about the Palestinians from Aish HaTorah (LINKS)
9. More Articles about the Palestinians (miscellaneous) (LINKS)
10. Articles about the Palestinians from Mr. Patrick Condell (LINKS)
11. Pro-Israel Articles from Aish HaTorah (LINKS)
12. Articles Refuting the BDS Movement from Aish HaTorah (LINKS)
13. Articles about Media Bias against Israel from Aish HaTorah (LINKS)
14. Ancient Roman historians connected Jews with the Land of Israel
15. Why Israel’s 1967 Borders are Undefendable (LINKS)
Who Are the Palestinians?
by Yashiko Sagamori  --  2002 November 25

Yashiko Sagamori is a New York-based
Information Technology consultant.
If you are so sure that "Palestine, the country, goes back
through most of recorded history", I expect you to be able
to answer a few basic questions about that country of "Palestine":

1. When was it founded and by whom?

2. What were its borders?

3. What was its capital?

4. What were its major cities?

5. What constituted the basis of its economy?

6. What was its form of government?

7. Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?

8. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence,
at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?

9. What was the [unique] language of the country of Palestine?

10. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?

11. What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history
and try and find the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian
 monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, British pound,
Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date.

12. Have the Palestinians left any artifacts behind?

13. Do you know of a library where one could find a work
of Palestinian literature produced before 1967 CE?

14. And, finally, since there is no such country today,
what caused its demise and when did it occur?

If you are lamenting the "low sinking" of "once proud"
nation, then please tell me, when exactly was that "nation"
proud and what was it so proud of?

And here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people
you mistakenly call "Palestinians" are anything but generic
Arabs collected from all over - or thrown out of - the Arab
world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives
them right for self-determination, why did they never try
to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating
defeat by Israel in the 1967 Six Day War?

I hope you avoid the temptation to trace the modern-day
"Palestinians" to the Biblical Philistines: substituting
etymology for history won´t work here.

The truth should be obvious to everyone who wants to know it. 
Arab countries have never abandoned the dream of destroying
Israel; they still cherish it today. Having time and again failed
to achieve their evil goal through military means, they decided
to fight Israel by proxy. 
For that purpose, they created a terrorist organization, cynically
called it "the Palestinian people" and installed it in Gaza, Judea,
and Samaria.  How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan
and Egypt to unconditionally accept back the "West Bank"
and Gaza, respectively, in the aftermath of the 1967 war?

The fact is, Arabs populating Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have
much less of a claim to nationhood than the American Indian
tribe that successfully emerged in Connecticut with the purpose
of starting a tax-exempt casino: at least that tribe had a constructive
goal that motivated them.
The so-called "Palestinians" have only one motivation:
the destruction of Israel. In my book that is not sufficient to
consider them a "nation" -- or anything else -- except what they
really are: a terrorist organization that will one day be dismantled.

In fact, there is only one way to achieve piece in the Middle East.
Arab countries must acknowledge and accept their defeat in
their war against Israel and, as the losing side, should pay Israel
reparations for the more than 50 years of devastation they have
visited upon it. The most appropriate form of such reparations
would be the removal of their terrorist organization from the
land of Israel and acceptance of Israel´s ancient sovereignty
over Gaza, Judea, and Samaria.

That will mark the end of the Palestinian people.
What are you saying again was its beginning?

What happened to the Philistines? by Mr. Cohen
Some Palestinians claim to be descendants of the Philistines,
an ancient nation that is mentioned in the Bible.  This claim
is very unlikely to be true, because around the year 600 BCE,
King Nebuchadnezzar [king of Babylon] destroyed most of
the Philistines, and the rest were deported to Babylon. 

According to the article titled: “Who Were the Philistines?
written by Owen Jarus, which appeared in Live Science
magazine on 2016 July 16:

“The Philistines disappear from written history during the 6th century B.C. when the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II (reign ca. 605 BC – c. 562 BC) conquered the region and destroyed several cities, including Ashkelon [which was their main city].”

Josephus and the Philistines by Mr. Cohen
Michael Avioz wrote an essay titled: “The Philistines in Josephus’ Writings”.
In the final paragraph of this essay, which is titled “Conclusion”, he says:

               “Unlike the Egyptians, the
               Philistines no longer existed
             in Josephus’ own life-time.”

Since the famous historian Josephus lived around 2,000 years ago
in the Holy Land [which was then called the land of Judea] this
means that the Philistines were already vanished from the Holy Land
around 2,000 years ago.  Therefore, claims that the Palestinians
are descendants of the Biblical Philistines are very unlikely to be true.

SOURCE:The Philistines in Josephus’ Writings” by Michael Avioz

Where did the Philistines come from? by Mr. Cohen

The ancient Philistines originated from the
AEGEAN area, according to the World Book
Encyclopedia, volume 15 (letter P), page 382, 2017.

The Aegean Sea is part of Greece.  Therefore,
the Philistines were Greeks. They were NOT
indigenous to the Land of Israel; they were foreign.

Where did the Philistines live? by Mr. Cohen

The ancient Philistines lived in what is now
southwestern Israel, according to the World Book
Encyclopedia, volume 15 (letter P), page 382, 2017.
Therefore, if the Palestinians have any claim
to the Land of Israel that is based on the
ancient Philistines, then that claim is limited to
southwest Israel, also known as Gaza.

Four Quotes about Palestine

***** QUOTE 1: *****

Zuheir Mohsen, a leader of the PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization),
said this in an interview with Trouw (a Dutch daily newspaper) in March 1977:

“The Palestinian people does not exist.
The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing
our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality,
today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians,
Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons
do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people,
since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence
of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism."

***** QUOTE 2: *****

"From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning
of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was
not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries…"

Professor Bernard Lewis, Commentary Magazine, January 1975

***** QUOTE 3: *****

"There is no such thing as a Palestinian Arab nation...

Palestine is a name the Romans gave to Israel with the express
purpose of infuriating the Jews...

Why should we use the spiteful name meant to humiliate us?

The British chose to call the land they mandated Palestine,
and the Arabs picked it up as their nation's supposed ancient name,
though they couldn't even pronounce it correctly and turned it into
Falastin a fictional entity."

SOURCE: Golda Meir quoted by Sarah Honig,
Jerusalem Post, 25 November 1995

***** QUOTE 4: *****

"Palestine has never existed . . . as an autonomous entity.
There is no language known as Palestinian. 
There is no distinct Palestinian culture. 
There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. 

Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians
(another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.  

Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands.  Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. 
But that's too  much for the Arabs.  They want it all.

And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today . . .
No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make,
it will never be enough."

SOURCE: Myths of the Middle East by Joseph Farah,
an Arab-American editor and journalist,, 11 October 2000

Why did the Oslo peace treaty fail?

“[The] Olso [peace treaty] also failed because the Palestinians,
while talking peace in English, continued to build hate
against Israelis in Arabic, in their mosques and textbooks.

And they continued to draw maps of a future
Palestinian state that erased Israel.” 

SOURCE: Longitudes and Attitudes (page 224)
by Thomas L. Friedman, 2002 April 7

Articles about the Palestinians from Aish HaTorah:
More Articles about the Palestinians (miscellaneous)

The Palestinian Connection to the Nazis
by Wolfgang G. Schwanitz, 2017 May 14
How a pro-Palestinian American reporter
changed his views on Israel and the conflict

by Hunter Stuart, 2017 February 15

Dismantling the Palestinian Lie
by Yaakov Menken,  2018 May 25

Why Palestinian Incitement Matters
by Jonathan Rosenblum, 2009 November 5

End the False Israeli-Palestinian Parity
by Daniel Pipes, 2017 July 9

Palestine: Failing the test of history
Martin Sherman 2018 June 6

Rudy Giuliani said: Terror promotion proves
Palestinian Authority is ‘not entitled to be a state’

What is Palestine? Who are the Palestinians?

Mr. Patrick Condell has no Jewish ancestors
and no religion that might cause him to favor Jews.

Please read these short pro-Israel articles that
expose the Palestinians by Mr. Patrick Condell:

Pro-Israel Articles from Aish HaTorah
Articles Refuting the BDS Movement from Aish HaTorah

Articles about Media Bias against Israel from Aish HaTorah
Why is the Media Biased?
4 Reasons Why the Media is Biased against Israel:
Dishonest Reporting: Media Bias Against Israel
The Media: Destroying Jerusalem Again
European Media and Anti-Israel Bias
Palestinians: Western Media's Ignorance and Bias
Huge source of high-quality pro-Israel videos
An Insider’s Guide to the Most Important Story on Earth
by Matti Friedman, 2014/8/26

This article exposes intentional anti-Israel bias in the news media.
It is still VERY relevant, even though it was written in 2014.
Ancient Roman historians connected Jews with the Land of Israel:


Batya said...

Although this is an important article, it's not an original, nor is it new. Those are two important criteria for posting here.

Mr. Cohen said...

I just added two more paragraphs that are my own
original writing. Hopefully that pleases you.

My main criteria is writing whatever
truths that help Jews and/or Israel.

But obviously, your criteria are more important than mine.

Batya said...


Collin Merenoff said...

Very few if any of the original Palestinian settlers are alive today. That means almost all Palestinians own the land by virtue of their own birth.

There is no requirement for us to own our ancient land. According to Genesis 13:16, the Promised Land is a size, not a position. And our worldwide presence already totals that promised size and much more. There is no just cause to occupy Palestine.

Liatris Spicata said...

Batya, as a mere goy, I try to stay away from the internecine battles among members of the Tribe of Israel. But original or not, Mr Cohen’s occasional resisting, and augmenting this collection is appreciated at this end.

Liatris Spicata said...

Collin, I find your comment to be semi-coherent- I quite do not understand what your first paragraph is trying to say. When, and how, did Arabs gain the right to “occupy Palestine”? (Yes, I am presuming you think they do).

Anonymous said...

So, you want Israel to occupy ALL of the Middle East, or at least reduce the population of all non-Jews to a very low number or something?