Thursday, December 25, 2014

Straight Talking: Delete "Two State Solution" from Political-Diplomatic Lexicon!

I'm not one to speak in flowery vague euphemisms. I call a spade a spade, a rose a rose, and when something stinks, I'm not shy about saying so. The time has come to call off the negotiations for a "Two State Solution."

I'm very pragmatic. I listen to what the Arabs are really saying, not dreaming and scheming "maybes" and "what ifs." I consider the Palestine Media Watch to be the best source of news about what Arabs are really saying:

Fatah official:Israeli cities "Haifa, Jaffa, Acre  and Nazareth are Palestinian,despite the Americans and the Israelis" PA TV song broadcast dozens of times:  "Jaffa, Acre, Haifa, and Nazareth are ours"

This does put me in the political "dog house," but I don't care. I know that the State of Israel must make a clean break of it if we want to survive. The history-based Chanukah holiday has just ended, and one of its lessons is that compromise and negotiations aren't the keys to our survival.

There is room here for only one state, and let's make it clear, that it's 
The Jewish State of Israel!!


Hillel Levin said...

Batya, I disagree. I think a 2 state solution is fine. Give the arabs Montana and Wyoming.

Batya said...

That's an excellent solution.

Anonymous said...

I don't think the farmers out in Montana and Wyoming will agree with Hillel. However, maybe if you put them near Yellowstone Nat'l Park just before the geyser blows - now, that would be just fine with me.

CDG, Yerushalayim

Batya said...

Good idea, CDG, thanks.

Sammy Finkelman said...

It's not a "solution" because the lack of settled boundaries for Israel and settled citizenship for many Arabs is not the "problem."

The problems - that all the would be helpers ignore, is that Arab opponents of Israel consider Israel to be the enemy. Just simply because they don't repeat that 100% of the time doesn't make it not so.

You cannot even talk about solutions, good or bad, with your enemies.

You don't make peace woth your friends. True.

And you don't make a lasting peace with your enemies, although you may sign on to truce's which you hope the enemy will constantly consider in their self-interest to keep.

You make peace with people who are no longer your enemies.

That's not the case now.

As fpr the problems one of the problem is the vilification of Israel and the self-righteousness, regardless of the true facts, among Arabs, Moslems and most of the world's governments.

A secondary problem is the non-acceptance of a Jewish state.

A very serious problem is an inability to confess wrongdoing against Israel. There can't be repentance without confession.

And another problem with many proposed solutions is that they don't recognize that Israel and its people are righteoues and the enemies of Israel are the sinners.

Many solutios try to take this into account, sort of, but they go through all sorts of contortions to avoid recognizing that.

Sammy Finkelman said...

A "1-state solution" is not a solution, either, becausde it doesn't make any of the real problems go away:

1) Vilification and lies about Israel and Jews.

2) Non-acceptance of a "Jewish" state.

3) Tolerance of war crimes and terrorism.

4) Regarding Israel as the enemy.

5) Total inability for anyone in many places to claim that any wrongdoing has been committed against Israel.

6) Completely unwarranted self-righteousness.

As long as any of these things remain true, nothing will work.

Batya said...

Sammy, interesting points. Some are very important. Thanks