Monday, May 8, 2017

Negotiations With The Arabs Won't Bring Us Peace

I've been following news in Israel since before the 1967 Six Days War, and I've lived here since 1970, so I do have quite a long perspective. I remember when Israel's political Center and even Left mocked the idea of a Palestinian State and People. That was the consensus here. Some of us haven't changed our opinions, but most inexplicably have.

I emphasis  inexplicably, because facts and history haven't changed. All those Israelis who in recent decades, Right, Left and Center, who now insist, as I've heard Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu say, "...the Palestinians deserve a state..." have fallen for a dangerous con/sting.

Why should and how can anybody insist that a bunch of immoral blood-thirsty terrorists should be given land from a peaceful legitimate internationally recognized country so they can invent a new state?

Netanyahu keeps claiming that if he puts enough impossible conditions on this state, it just won't happen, but he's wrong.

Palestinian Media Watch
The ultimate and unrepentant aim of those Arab terrorists, who are called Palestinians, sic, is the destruction of the State of Israel, Gd forbid. Yes, it's that simple, that black and white.

Highlights of the speeches from the Jerusalem Post Conference in New York, see this and this, show that there are politicians and government ministers who are wary of such a state, but that's not enough to make me feel safe. And of course, all of their proposals are based on negotiations.

There's a basic, and very dangerous, premise in negotiations. That is the recognition of the other side as legitimate, equal. That's the tragic flaw in negotiating which shouldn't be ignored.

For decades already, the Americans have made it clear that they see the Arabs, even Hamas, as equal to Israel and peaceful citizens like myself.

PM Rabin with Arafat and Bill Clinton
Over twenty years ago, in my living-room, an American Consular official had the utter gall to equate me and my neighbors with the terrorists of Hamas. I told him off and he seemed very surprised. Since Yitzchak Rabin had been willing to accept the terrorist Arafat, the game had changed for many, but not for me.

Arafat never stopped his support of terrorism against Jews and Israelis and ditto for his successors, such as Abbas.

Support of terrorism isn't something that can be negotiated away by a bit of compromise. It's an intrinsic fact.

It doesn't matter what the format, how direct, indirect, whether in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv or the White House, negotiations with terror supporters won't bring peace. Such negotiations will just weaken us, militarily, ideologically and diplomatically. Take a good look. This is exactly what has been happening the past few decades. Israel's legitimizing the so-called Palestinians have just chipped away at our acceptance. Today most universities, all over the world, are hotbeds of anti-Israel, pro BDS ideology.

The cat's out of the bag and we have an almost impossible mess to undo. Gd willing we will succeed.


Mr. Cohen said...

List of reasons why negotiations with the
Arabs will NOT bring peace to Jews:

[1] Islam teaches that peace treaties with non-Muslims SHOULD NOT be complied with, and should be used as a tactic to launch a surprise attack against non-Muslims, so the non-Muslims can be conquered and massacred. This principle is so important to Islam that there is a special name for it. Just do an internet search on “Treaty of Hudaibiya”.

[2] Islam teaches that Jews are enemies of Allah and tried to kill the founder-of-Islam many times. And eventually, all Jews all around the world must be killed, even if they are anti-Zionist and even if they never lived in the land of Israel, because the Muslim Messianic Era cannot come until ALL JEWS ARE DEAD.

[3] Islam teaches that Jews are apes and pigs who should be impoverished and defenseless and shake with fear before Muslims and bow before Muslims.

[4]How intermarriage harms Jewish
sovereignty over the Land of Israel

[5]How Shabbat-desecration harms
Jewish sovereignty over Jerusalem:

[6] 33 centuries of Jewish prophecy, Jewish Law,
Jewish ethical writings, and Jewish tradition teach
that Jews can only attain peace through repentance
and good deeds:

Isaiah, chapter 48, last verse:
“There is no peace for the wicked, said G_d.”

Batya said...

Yes, thanks

Sammy Finkelman said...

Netanyahu is adding conditions for negotiations, like the opposite side declaring they have no objections to a Jewish state, but he's not adding enough of them.

And it should be pointed out that the only moderately long lasting solution has to be based on Arab recognition of Israel's moral superiority.

Batya said...

Sammy, for sure.

Mr. Cohen said...

Minor Tractates of the Talmud, Avot DeRabbi Natan,
Chapter 28, Paragraph 9:

He [Hillel] taught:
The more good deeds [you do] the more peace you bring to yourself.

Midrash Rabah, Seder Naso, Parshah 11, Paragraph 7:
Peace is a great thing, because it is granted to people who do repentance (teshubah)…
PERSONAL COMMENT: The most peaceful places I know are the cities of Passaic and Clifton; both cities are filled with Baalei Teshubah.

Rabbi Menachem Mendel Morgenstern, The Kotzker Rebbe:
Peace gained through surrender will never endure.
CHRONOLOGY: The Kotzker Rebbe lived from 1787 CE to 1859 CE.
SOURCE: Torah Tavlin, 2009 July 11, Parshat Pinchas

Evil Logic Explained
(why many people like the "Two State Solution"):

Ancient Roman historians connected
Jews with the Land of Israel

How a Reform Rabbi Became Orthodox (true story):

Rambam Rejected Childless Messiah:

Why Muslims Hate Jews:

How to Convict the New York Times
of Unfair Bias Against Israel:

Why Israel’s 1967 Borders are Undefendable:

Anonymous said...

find it suspicious when he adds 'giving the Arabs special status'. Doubt very much if he is the one controlling this. Why add a law to a country that was 'reborn' as the Jewish country (because it naturally (i.e. given by to us by the Creator) was, is and will be)? There's probably more to this.