This week's Gantseh Megillah has a musing of mine among a wide variety of other articles.
cross-posted at me-ander
Friday, May 6, 2005
Thursday, May 5, 2005
"eyes bigger than their stomaches," and "biting off more than they can chew"
One of the least pleasant things about hearing the Disengagement supporters talk about transfering the thousands of citizens and their possesstions, businesses, etc is how they act and sound like it's no different from blowing a feather or swatting a fly. The same people consider the "transfer" of Arabs immoral, of course. But that's not my point right now.
an excerpt
I did hear one very interesting story which I feel almost obligated to repeat. A company (I don't remember which), after receiving the contract to evacuate all the material property belonging to families, offices, organizations, etc. as part of the expulsion program, concluded that they would need two thousand gigantic containers, utilized around the clock, in order to fulfill their 'mission'. The only company in Israel that could provide such containers is the Israeli shipping corporation Zim. When they met with Zim executives, asking how many containers the company could provide, they were told three or four hundred at most. Shocked, they insisted that Zim obtain all the containers they needed, but were refused. "It can't be done; it costs too much money. We can't do it."
So, if containers are out, what next? They then approached the largest trucking company in Israel and began negotiating with them for a huge fleet of trucks. When the trucking executives asked why they needed the vehicles, they were told, "For the disengagement." At that point, the trucking company executives pointed to the door and said, "Will the last one out please shut the door."
"Why, you don't want the contract?" "Maybe you didn't hear correctly. The meeting is over."
"But why?"
"The owner of this company made it quite clear – whoever lifts one finger to assist with the so-called 'Disengagement' can start looking for a new job. Have a good day."
As Tisha B'Av gets closer, they're trying to organize all the logistics. Easier said than done, Baruch Hashem. First of all, even if the residents had signed up with the "relocation committee," there's no place for them dead or alive .
And if G-d forbid Jews are really to be thrown out of their homes, no one is really willing to do it.
Read more:
From David Wilder of Chevronan excerpt
I did hear one very interesting story which I feel almost obligated to repeat. A company (I don't remember which), after receiving the contract to evacuate all the material property belonging to families, offices, organizations, etc. as part of the expulsion program, concluded that they would need two thousand gigantic containers, utilized around the clock, in order to fulfill their 'mission'. The only company in Israel that could provide such containers is the Israeli shipping corporation Zim. When they met with Zim executives, asking how many containers the company could provide, they were told three or four hundred at most. Shocked, they insisted that Zim obtain all the containers they needed, but were refused. "It can't be done; it costs too much money. We can't do it."
So, if containers are out, what next? They then approached the largest trucking company in Israel and began negotiating with them for a huge fleet of trucks. When the trucking executives asked why they needed the vehicles, they were told, "For the disengagement." At that point, the trucking company executives pointed to the door and said, "Will the last one out please shut the door."
"Why, you don't want the contract?" "Maybe you didn't hear correctly. The meeting is over."
"But why?"
"The owner of this company made it quite clear – whoever lifts one finger to assist with the so-called 'Disengagement' can start looking for a new job. Have a good day."
Natan Sharansky
I've had a mix of comments on my previous musings in which I warned that Natan Sharansky is not against Disengagement in principle. Many, many people are blinded by his celebrity, legendary status. They look at him and their own opinions are reflected back, like a mirror. But, please read closely. First of all, he writes/gives a confused and confusing variety of opinions and rationales. There is no single "right" or message. Everyone can find something whether it's democracy, security, withdrawal etc. The fact that Arik Sharon has permitted him to stay in the cabinet so long should make you suspicious, and he admits that his timing of the resignation was even coordinated with Sharon.
A true leader has "one right." That's what leadership is, taking us in a clear direction. There's nothing clear with Sharansky. His letter is so long and complex, purposely to be able to later show that he hadn't lied. That means, that if, G-d forbid, the country votes him as Prime Minister and then he withdraws from more and more of our Holy Land, he can show that he never said that he was for "Eretz Yisrael Hashleimah," "the Whole Land of Israel."
Honestly, not in a million years did I ever think I'd be writing anti-Sharansky pieces. But learning to listen carefully is a life-saving skill.
Don't listen for what you want to hear. Listen for the danger signs and phrases.
I was told that HaRav Yigal Kamenetzky, the Rabbi of Gush Katif, will be here in Shiloh for Shabbat and will be speaking. Too bad it's Shabbat and we can't take notes, but I'm sure that I'll have something interesting to write afterwards.
A true leader has "one right." That's what leadership is, taking us in a clear direction. There's nothing clear with Sharansky. His letter is so long and complex, purposely to be able to later show that he hadn't lied. That means, that if, G-d forbid, the country votes him as Prime Minister and then he withdraws from more and more of our Holy Land, he can show that he never said that he was for "Eretz Yisrael Hashleimah," "the Whole Land of Israel."
Honestly, not in a million years did I ever think I'd be writing anti-Sharansky pieces. But learning to listen carefully is a life-saving skill.
Don't listen for what you want to hear. Listen for the danger signs and phrases.
I was told that HaRav Yigal Kamenetzky, the Rabbi of Gush Katif, will be here in Shiloh for Shabbat and will be speaking. Too bad it's Shabbat and we can't take notes, but I'm sure that I'll have something interesting to write afterwards.
Monday, May 2, 2005
#116 Why Now?
Musings #116
May 2, 2005
23rd of Nissan
Why Now?
My father, who’ll G-d willing be 85 this summer, keeps telling me that he thinks that I write well, but he wishes that I wouldn’t write such depressing things. I’m sorry, but even when I plan something “light” it evolves into thoughts I’d rather not have.
I have no real control over my “musings.” No matter how much planning I put into them, something takes over. Even if I know exactly what I am going to write, there’s no guarantee that the final product will resemble the essay that I planned.
This time I certainly can’t promise something cheerful. My father, the C.P.A., always warned me to be suspicious, and I learned the lesson well, maybe even too well. My problem is that I see dangers where others don’t, and I have difficulties trusting politicians. You know what the say about paranoids having enemies… Unfortunately sometimes I’m right.
Close to thirty years ago demonstrating for the release of Natan (Anatoly) Sharansky from Soviet prison, I never would have guessed that I’d be writing an article like this. Then, it was known that he was brilliant and charismatic, but who would have guessed that he would become an Israeli politician and government minister? Who would have predicted that he would become so internationally respected? And who would have thought that I’d be so suspicious of him?
Today’s headlines proclaim:
Sharansky: Would Be Immoral to Remain in Gov't 20:06 May 02, '05 / 23 Nisan 5765
http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=81207
May. 1, 2005 22:46 Updated May. 2, 2005 20:53Sharansky resigns over disengagement
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1114913918617
I have a problem with his timing; why now? Disengagement was proclaimed months ago. Other ministers who disagreed with it were fired. Why davka now has Natan Sharansky decided to resign? Also, when you read the “fine print” his reasons, rationale, further down in the articles, things look different and less noble. Listen carefully to him, and learn that: “Although he has in the past supported withdrawal from parts of the Land of Israel, Sharansky says the current plan goes too far.” (Arutz 7) And The Jerusalem Post writes: “In a long letter of resignation, Sharansky cited the need for democratization of Palestinian government in Gaza as a pre-requisite for an Israeli pullout. “
This is very different from the anti-Disengagement lobby. I don’t see him as opposing Disengagement in principle. He is in favor of withdrawal but just wants to change the details of the agreement. Or he just wants to wait until the Arabs act more like “westerners.”
There are two simple possibilities for his resignation at this time. One is that he wants to improve his standing as a national leader, figuring that he has more charisma, international standing and better “name recognition” than the three most prominent leaders; Dr. Arye Eldad, Ruby Rivlin and Uzi Landau. He figures that there’s a vacuum in Israeli society, and he wants to fill it.
Another reason is more sinister, or mercenary. According to The Jerusalem Post, by resigning he is no longer employed and therefore no longer restricted. “… unemployment would allow Sharansky to accept honoraria for speeches abroad promoting his book, The Case For Democracy, which has been endorsed by US President George W. Bush.”
One thing for sure, all the headlines proclaiming that Sharansky resigned because he opposes Disengagement are misleading. And they are meant to make us think that he is anti-Disengagement and anti withdrawal. His aim is to weaken the support for the real leaders, Eldad, Rivlin, Landau and all the others who have been consistently opposing withdrawal and destruction.
It’s all a trick. Sharansky may have survived Soviet imprisonment, and you can respect him for that. But he is not an anti-Disengagement leader. We don’t need Sharansky pretending to be one of us, and we don’t need the media cooperating with him.
Davka, my neighbors who emigrated from the former USSR are most spooked by the familiar intrigues emanating from Israeli government officials; it’s dejas vu for them. Many of them, like Sharansky, are experts in the game of chess. They know that one must watch from all directions and predict how each move can influence the future.
One should never be too naïve or trusting when playing with a pro like Sharansky.
Batya Medad, Shiloh
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May 2, 2005
23rd of Nissan
Why Now?
My father, who’ll G-d willing be 85 this summer, keeps telling me that he thinks that I write well, but he wishes that I wouldn’t write such depressing things. I’m sorry, but even when I plan something “light” it evolves into thoughts I’d rather not have.
I have no real control over my “musings.” No matter how much planning I put into them, something takes over. Even if I know exactly what I am going to write, there’s no guarantee that the final product will resemble the essay that I planned.
This time I certainly can’t promise something cheerful. My father, the C.P.A., always warned me to be suspicious, and I learned the lesson well, maybe even too well. My problem is that I see dangers where others don’t, and I have difficulties trusting politicians. You know what the say about paranoids having enemies… Unfortunately sometimes I’m right.
Close to thirty years ago demonstrating for the release of Natan (Anatoly) Sharansky from Soviet prison, I never would have guessed that I’d be writing an article like this. Then, it was known that he was brilliant and charismatic, but who would have guessed that he would become an Israeli politician and government minister? Who would have predicted that he would become so internationally respected? And who would have thought that I’d be so suspicious of him?
Today’s headlines proclaim:
Sharansky: Would Be Immoral to Remain in Gov't 20:06 May 02, '05 / 23 Nisan 5765
http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=81207
May. 1, 2005 22:46 Updated May. 2, 2005 20:53Sharansky resigns over disengagement
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1114913918617
I have a problem with his timing; why now? Disengagement was proclaimed months ago. Other ministers who disagreed with it were fired. Why davka now has Natan Sharansky decided to resign? Also, when you read the “fine print” his reasons, rationale, further down in the articles, things look different and less noble. Listen carefully to him, and learn that: “Although he has in the past supported withdrawal from parts of the Land of Israel, Sharansky says the current plan goes too far.” (Arutz 7) And The Jerusalem Post writes: “In a long letter of resignation, Sharansky cited the need for democratization of Palestinian government in Gaza as a pre-requisite for an Israeli pullout. “
This is very different from the anti-Disengagement lobby. I don’t see him as opposing Disengagement in principle. He is in favor of withdrawal but just wants to change the details of the agreement. Or he just wants to wait until the Arabs act more like “westerners.”
There are two simple possibilities for his resignation at this time. One is that he wants to improve his standing as a national leader, figuring that he has more charisma, international standing and better “name recognition” than the three most prominent leaders; Dr. Arye Eldad, Ruby Rivlin and Uzi Landau. He figures that there’s a vacuum in Israeli society, and he wants to fill it.
Another reason is more sinister, or mercenary. According to The Jerusalem Post, by resigning he is no longer employed and therefore no longer restricted. “… unemployment would allow Sharansky to accept honoraria for speeches abroad promoting his book, The Case For Democracy, which has been endorsed by US President George W. Bush.”
One thing for sure, all the headlines proclaiming that Sharansky resigned because he opposes Disengagement are misleading. And they are meant to make us think that he is anti-Disengagement and anti withdrawal. His aim is to weaken the support for the real leaders, Eldad, Rivlin, Landau and all the others who have been consistently opposing withdrawal and destruction.
It’s all a trick. Sharansky may have survived Soviet imprisonment, and you can respect him for that. But he is not an anti-Disengagement leader. We don’t need Sharansky pretending to be one of us, and we don’t need the media cooperating with him.
Davka, my neighbors who emigrated from the former USSR are most spooked by the familiar intrigues emanating from Israeli government officials; it’s dejas vu for them. Many of them, like Sharansky, are experts in the game of chess. They know that one must watch from all directions and predict how each move can influence the future.
One should never be too naïve or trusting when playing with a pro like Sharansky.
Batya Medad, Shiloh
Copyright©2005BatyaMedad, Contact me for publication permission; private distribution encouraged.
Shilohmuse@yahoo.com
http://shilohmusings.blogspot.com/
http://me-ander.blogspot.com/
http://www.shilo.org.il
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Transfer
I must say that Cosmic X had a wonderful idea that got me thinking. You can see his idea in the previous post's comment. You all know that the Beduin and other Arabs are taking over the Negev and Gallil. And it's not right to force Jewish refugees to rent slum apartments, live in tents or force them to establish new communities--for some it would be for the 3rd time or more.
Now the Peace Now, leftists, media etc seem so worried about the future of the Negev and Gallil, and they want to destroy Jewish homes in Gush Katif and Northern Shomron. So wouldn't you think it fair if they moved to the Gallil and Negev and gave their homes in Ramat Aviv, Kfar Shmariyahu, Herziliya to the newly (G-d forbid) homeless?
Now the Peace Now, leftists, media etc seem so worried about the future of the Negev and Gallil, and they want to destroy Jewish homes in Gush Katif and Northern Shomron. So wouldn't you think it fair if they moved to the Gallil and Negev and gave their homes in Ramat Aviv, Kfar Shmariyahu, Herziliya to the newly (G-d forbid) homeless?
Unwanted
Is Disengagement a real possiblity?
Every once in a while when answering "theoretical questions" about the destruction, G-d forbid, of our country, my home in Shiloh, I'd tell people that in the end it won't happen. That's simply because none of the people calling for my home's destruction really want us in their neighborhoods.
Besides that it's really too expensive for the government to rehouse all the refugees. This is what's being discovered now, though anyone with brains, regardless of their political opinion, knew it before Disengagement was ever announced. And the rental option has ramifications even worse, raising the price of rentals, even in slums, beyond what anyone can afford. That will cause even more "social ills."
And the "agreements" already reached are proving impossible to implement. Of course this is no surprise to us.
King David wrote numerous times about how the evil fall, the higher they start, the bigger their disgrace. T'hilim, Psalms, could have had been written today .
Every once in a while when answering "theoretical questions" about the destruction, G-d forbid, of our country, my home in Shiloh, I'd tell people that in the end it won't happen. That's simply because none of the people calling for my home's destruction really want us in their neighborhoods.
Besides that it's really too expensive for the government to rehouse all the refugees. This is what's being discovered now, though anyone with brains, regardless of their political opinion, knew it before Disengagement was ever announced. And the rental option has ramifications even worse, raising the price of rentals, even in slums, beyond what anyone can afford. That will cause even more "social ills."
And the "agreements" already reached are proving impossible to implement. Of course this is no surprise to us.
King David wrote numerous times about how the evil fall, the higher they start, the bigger their disgrace. T'hilim, Psalms, could have had been written today .
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Loving Kindness
23 Nissan, 5765 / May 2, 2005
Day 23 - False Security
SEFER AHAVAS CHESED — Part II Chapter VII
One of the classic philosophical questions, pondered by the simplest and most sophisticated minds alike, is this: Why do unkind people seem to amass so much of the world’s riches? Why do so many of them lead apparently untroubled, satisfying lives? The Talmud (Temurah 16a) bursts the illusion that one can prosper by withholding chesed. “When a poor person goes to the head of an established household for help, if the man helps him, he had done what he should.” However, if he doesn’t help him, Hashem Who made one poor and the other rich may reverse their stations. This conclusion is based on the verse in Mishlei (22:2), “The rich man and the poor man meet; Hashem is the Maker of them all.”
In the Talmud’s scenario, there is a poor man, desperate to meet his barest requirements. There is a rich man, settled, satisfied and comfortable. The two come together, and what transpires has an inevitable impact on both of their futures. If the wealthy man takes care of the poor man to the best of his ability, fulfillinghis responsibility with care and kindness, his status rises. He has kept Hashem’s trust, and therefore, Hashem will allow his wealth to remain with him. If, on the other hand, he turns his back on the poor man, he will at some point discover that the roles of rich and poor are temporary and easily reversed. It may not happen immediately — the rich man may even have decades of good fortune ahead of him. In the end, however, his seemingly substantial fortune can dissipate like smoke into the air.
The Chofetz Chaim himself witnessed the unfolding of just such a story. A recently widowed woman with young children was unable to pay her rent. The landlord pressed to evict her, while the community begged him to be patient and allow them to organize some help for her. The landlord would not wait; neither, however, could he find anyone willing to physically remove the family from the house. In his mind, this was a situation that called for desperate measures. He hired a crane to come and remove the roof from the house. “Let it rain on them. Let it snow on them. They’ll be out soon enough,” he thought. The family was indeed forced out into the street, and the landlord seemed to live on with impunity. His properties increased; his fortunes doubled and tripled.
The Chofetz Chaim, however, warned the man that he would receive his recompense in full measure. Thirty years later, a plague hit the region. The landlord was stricken by the disease, but no doctor would help him for fear of contagion. He died alone in the street. Because his body carried the dreaded plague, it remained untended for many days. No one was willing to risk illness for the sake of his dignity. It rained on him, it snowed on him and, ultimately, his frail, elderly father came to claim the son’s disgraced remains and lay him in a shallow grave.
A person with the means and the opportunity to help someone else may believe he has an option before him. As this story illustrates, however, there is really only one choice for one who wishes to protect the blessings he has. That is, to look at the poor person standing in the doorway or living down the block and think, “What can I do to help?” and then, to do it.
Step by Step
If there is something I could have done for someone recently, but didn’t, today I will try to rectify the situation.
Taken from “Chofetz Chaim: Loving Kindness – Daily Lessons in the Power of Giving,” a project of Mesorah Publications and the Chofetz Chaim Heritage Foundation
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Loving Kindness
23 Nissan, 5765 / May 2, 2005
Day 23 - False Security
SEFER AHAVAS CHESED — Part II Chapter VII
One of the classic philosophical questions, pondered by the simplest and most sophisticated minds alike, is this: Why do unkind people seem to amass so much of the world’s riches? Why do so many of them lead apparently untroubled, satisfying lives? The Talmud (Temurah 16a) bursts the illusion that one can prosper by withholding chesed. “When a poor person goes to the head of an established household for help, if the man helps him, he had done what he should.” However, if he doesn’t help him, Hashem Who made one poor and the other rich may reverse their stations. This conclusion is based on the verse in Mishlei (22:2), “The rich man and the poor man meet; Hashem is the Maker of them all.”
In the Talmud’s scenario, there is a poor man, desperate to meet his barest requirements. There is a rich man, settled, satisfied and comfortable. The two come together, and what transpires has an inevitable impact on both of their futures. If the wealthy man takes care of the poor man to the best of his ability, fulfillinghis responsibility with care and kindness, his status rises. He has kept Hashem’s trust, and therefore, Hashem will allow his wealth to remain with him. If, on the other hand, he turns his back on the poor man, he will at some point discover that the roles of rich and poor are temporary and easily reversed. It may not happen immediately — the rich man may even have decades of good fortune ahead of him. In the end, however, his seemingly substantial fortune can dissipate like smoke into the air.
The Chofetz Chaim himself witnessed the unfolding of just such a story. A recently widowed woman with young children was unable to pay her rent. The landlord pressed to evict her, while the community begged him to be patient and allow them to organize some help for her. The landlord would not wait; neither, however, could he find anyone willing to physically remove the family from the house. In his mind, this was a situation that called for desperate measures. He hired a crane to come and remove the roof from the house. “Let it rain on them. Let it snow on them. They’ll be out soon enough,” he thought. The family was indeed forced out into the street, and the landlord seemed to live on with impunity. His properties increased; his fortunes doubled and tripled.
The Chofetz Chaim, however, warned the man that he would receive his recompense in full measure. Thirty years later, a plague hit the region. The landlord was stricken by the disease, but no doctor would help him for fear of contagion. He died alone in the street. Because his body carried the dreaded plague, it remained untended for many days. No one was willing to risk illness for the sake of his dignity. It rained on him, it snowed on him and, ultimately, his frail, elderly father came to claim the son’s disgraced remains and lay him in a shallow grave.
A person with the means and the opportunity to help someone else may believe he has an option before him. As this story illustrates, however, there is really only one choice for one who wishes to protect the blessings he has. That is, to look at the poor person standing in the doorway or living down the block and think, “What can I do to help?” and then, to do it.
Step by Step
If there is something I could have done for someone recently, but didn’t, today I will try to rectify the situation.
Taken from “Chofetz Chaim: Loving Kindness – Daily Lessons in the Power of Giving,” a project of Mesorah Publications and the Chofetz Chaim Heritage Foundation
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Sunday, May 1, 2005
"ain chadash," dejas vu, "nothing's new"
http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=81133
This is an article about students going on a hunger strike against Disengagement.
It brings me back to Oslo time, when one of my daughters and her friends, who were then seniors in high school, went on a hunger strike, by the Prime Ministers Residence. The head of their school, who was Rabbi Yoel Bin Nun, was extremely supportive. I think they did it for a week. Their friends in other schools weren't allowed to join. Rav Yoel felt that they would be able to concentrate better on their studies if they demonstrated first. They all did very well.
Oslo planned on making us homeless refugees, and Baruch Hashem, bli eyin haraa, we're still here in Shiloh. So I guess the demonstrating was good.
I just hope that the new generation of demonstrators get better publicity than my daughter and her friends did. The "experts" who were helping didn't do much. I took my husband's media list and called and also called Keneset Members.
Everyone must do something.
This is an article about students going on a hunger strike against Disengagement.
It brings me back to Oslo time, when one of my daughters and her friends, who were then seniors in high school, went on a hunger strike, by the Prime Ministers Residence. The head of their school, who was Rabbi Yoel Bin Nun, was extremely supportive. I think they did it for a week. Their friends in other schools weren't allowed to join. Rav Yoel felt that they would be able to concentrate better on their studies if they demonstrated first. They all did very well.
Oslo planned on making us homeless refugees, and Baruch Hashem, bli eyin haraa, we're still here in Shiloh. So I guess the demonstrating was good.
I just hope that the new generation of demonstrators get better publicity than my daughter and her friends did. The "experts" who were helping didn't do much. I took my husband's media list and called and also called Keneset Members.
Everyone must do something.
letter in the Jerusalem Post
Apparently one of my short and to the point letters made it into the Jerusalem Post--
Sorry but I don't have the link.
Sir, – MK Arye Eldad is only calling for civil disobedience, like the Indian Gandhi did over 60 years ago. Trying to shut him up, prosecute him and jail him is immoral and against all principles of democracy and liberalism.
BATYA MEDAD
Shiloh
Sorry but I don't have the link.
Sir, – MK Arye Eldad is only calling for civil disobedience, like the Indian Gandhi did over 60 years ago. Trying to shut him up, prosecute him and jail him is immoral and against all principles of democracy and liberalism.
BATYA MEDAD
Shiloh
Shimon Peres and friendship
According to the "experts," Shimon Peres not very popular within his own labor party. The man known as "the loser," who has never won a national election and enthusiastically dragged Israel into the Oslo disaster, has no local support, unless you count the media.
Among the anti-Israel world "diplomats" and leaders, he's a popular star.
When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb
Do not protect yourself by a fence, but rather by your friends.
Czech Proverb
Purchase not friends by gifts; when thou ceasest to give, such will cease to love.
Thomas Fuller (1608 - 1661)
Among the anti-Israel world "diplomats" and leaders, he's a popular star.
When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb
Do not protect yourself by a fence, but rather by your friends.
Czech Proverb
Purchase not friends by gifts; when thou ceasest to give, such will cease to love.
Thomas Fuller (1608 - 1661)
None of Peres's gifts to our enemies has brought us peace.
Friday, April 29, 2005
Jerusalem, Israel's Capital City
Smoothstone has an important post about Jerusalem . For years I've felt that the best way of making our point would be if the Israeli government chose non-capital cities for its embassies in all countries that don't honor ours.
for example
USA- Baltimore
England- Liverpool
any other ideas.....
for example
USA- Baltimore
England- Liverpool
any other ideas.....
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