Monday, June 24, 2019

Every Time I'm About to Bite The Bullet and Support Likud, Bibi....

Every Time I'm About to Bite The Bullet and Support Likud, Bibi says something that turns my stomach:

With the next Knesset Elections looming, I don't see any alternative. There isn't a political party I like at all. I feel totally burnt by New Right and can't stand the clowns in the NRP, whatever they now call themselves.

I'm politically orphaned and homeless.

For someone like me who has always taken my politics seriously and personally, I'm in a position that I really don't like. In addition, I have too good a memory about politics, so there isn't a politician I can trust. No doubt I'll be holding my nose and grimacing in the polling booth. Does anyone feel the same?


Mr. Cohen said...

I believe that all of these four men
would be excellent members of Knesset.

Rabbi Jonathan Sacks

Rabbi Steven Pruzansky

Rabbi David Bar-Hayim.

Rabbi Chananya Weissman

Unfortunately, none of them are interested
in Knesset membership, and only
the last two live in Israel.

So we cannot vote for any of them.


Jonathan S. Tobin said:

“Like most of the rest of the Democrats,
[Pete] Buttigieg [mayor of South Bend]
seems to see Israel’s legitimacy as linked to
the creation of a Palestinian state alongside it.”


“At its core, the Democrats’ conception of the
U.S.-Israel relationship is that of a great power
and a client state that must do as it’s told.”

SOURCE: Trump discarded the carrot-and-stick
approach to Israel
by Jonathan S. Tobin, 2019 June 20

Jonathan S. Tobin said:

When The New York Times decided
to give the Democratic presidential
candidates a chance to answer 18
policy questions in a video essay,
the only one that touched on
the Middle East went as follows:

“Do you think Israel meets international
standards of human rights?”

That question summed up the anti-Israel
bias of the so-called newspaper of record
as well as anything it has ever published.

Considering the scores of nations with
egregious human-rights records and
the presence in Israel’s immediate
proximity to many of them, it speaks
volumes about the obsessive nature
of the paper’s prejudice that the
only query it would ask about was
the one country in the region that is
a democracy and respects human rights.

SOURCE: Trump discarded the
carrot-and-stick approach to Israel

by Jonathan S. Tobin, 2019 June 20

Batya said...

I hate to break it to you, but the Knesset is a complex job that demands more than just good opinions. Politics is a profession, and if you want to be effective and get your plans activated, you need to learn the profession.

Mr. Cohen said...

Batya, would you agree that the number of seats
in Knesset should be reduced from 120 to 60,
to reduce the cost of Knesset salaries?

Batya said...

I've never heard that recommendation, but I don't think it can be done. MKs are divided up into committees and other responsibilities. With half the number of MKs, everything would have to change, and change ends up very complicated, plus expensive. MK salaries are not Israel's greatest expense.

sheldan said...

Well, maybe you can now see why people like me cannot vote for Trump, no matter how much he has done for Israel...

And I can't vote for the Democrats either, because I can't trust them...

So I realize that one or the other will be elected, but that doesn't mean I have to support either side.

(And, yes, I know this is not about Israeli politics, but I am trying to make a point about being politically homeless.)

As far as your decision is concerned, I agree that you may (or may not) have to find a way to "hold your nose" to find someone to vote for. You probably are far from alone these days, and hopefully there will be a time when we can vote FOR someone without feeling strange about the choice.

Batya said...

Sheldan, I look at the lists, which run together and also consider how they're chosen. That gives Likud more points in my book.

On the American scene, looking at what's going on in the Democrats versus the Republicans gives a very clear picture. You may have to hold your nose, but vote for the Republicans.

Esser Agaroth said...

Rb. Sacks? Seriously?

Yeah, he doesn't live in Israel, which should, of course, pasul him. And, no, he should not be recruited. Have you actually read any of his opinions? Please contact me privately for examples.

Batya said...

Esser, you're right.

sheldan said...

Batya, I generally agree with you regarding Likud, although I am not really used to a parliamentary system. I think the leadership should be rotated (that goes for all elective offices, because if a politician is too long in office, he/she becomes corrupted by being there).

We will have to agree to disagree regarding Trump. I will NOT vote for him. And I will NOT vote for the Democrat if I can't justify that this is in the best interest of the country. I would cast my protest vote like I did in 2016. And I know that one or the other is likely to win, but these days both parties are a problem because the Democrats have not had good candidates since at least 2000, and Trump has hijacked the Republicans, who otherwise have the good candidates. In short, when the two parties get back to their senses, I will feel good about voting for them. Until then, I am resigned to waiting until 2024.

sheldan said...

Esser, you care to elaborate on Rabbi Sacks? Maybe there is something you see that I don't. I'll admit that I may not be aware of something that's a concern.

Batya said...

Sheldan, politics and government aren't a child's board game. It's a profession, which requires knowledge and skills. And the Israeli political system is more complex than most.

Esser Agaroth said...

Sheldan, I am afraid not at this time. First, I need to speak to Mr. Cohen. However, I doubt I will here from him.

Mr. Cohen said...


Ariel Ben Solomon said:

“During the past year-and-a-half,
he [Yigal Carmon] explained, MEMRI
concentrated on monitoring sermons by
imams [Muslim preachers] across America.

The results from a random sample of
over 100 imams, he said, were shocking.

The sermons were laced with incitement
to kill Jews, support for global
jihad and hard-core misogyny.

A few imams, he said,
preached tolerance and coexistence,
but they were a small minority.”

SOURCE: Supremacists and Jihadis form
two-pronged attack threatening Jews in USA

by Ariel Ben Solomon, 2019 June 26

Batya said...

Those Jews still stuck in galut will have a tougher time.

Sammy Finkelman said...

Crisis – somewhere?

Item: Europe sets up mechanism, caalled INSTEX, by whih companies can trade with Iran outside the SWIFT money transfer . Iran ssys it doesn’t work, and if trade is cut off they will break out the JCOPA nuclear deal.

Item: Iran says it is breaking out of it.That would mean European countries would have to impose its own sanctions. They say their thinking about it but the United Kingdom says they will be out.

Item: Israel bombs several targets in Syria- evidently to prevent Iran from getting ready for war or massive rocket bombardment.

Item: July 2, 2019 Vladimir Putin cancels meetings:

Item: Vice President Mike Pence’s airplane, heading towards Manchester, New Hampshire, where he is to speak about the opioid crisis, turns around and heads beack to Washington. It’s not a problem with the airplane.

The vice president scrapped a planned event in New Hampshire but White House officials called it a “diversion” and denied that there was an “emergency.”

“Something came up that required the Vice President to remain in Washington,” said Alyssa Farah, Pence’s spokeswoman.

This possible secret crisis did not make the CBS Evening News

Batya said...

Glad to hear from you, but what does you comment have to do the the post?