tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post923134563107164858..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Reflecting on Life in Shiloh versus Living Any Place ElseBatyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-92091485320556178062012-09-10T06:30:36.390+03:002012-09-10T06:30:36.390+03:00van, then why are more Americans more fearful, str...van, then why are more Americans more fearful, stressed out and medicated if Israel isn't a "sane place to live?"<br />Too many mitzvot are contingent on being in the HolyLand for one to think that being Jewish is the same wherever you are.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-7955757568633737762012-09-10T02:11:38.178+03:002012-09-10T02:11:38.178+03:00The conclusions you draw appear somewhat missing t...The conclusions you draw appear somewhat missing the point. I would think your move to Israel is a most wondrous opportunity you gys took advantage of. But to think that we in America do not know that danger lurks in many places in Israel, is frankly absurd because I take note of the changes over the years. Arabs, by getting a little more each time, become mischievous to get even more. It used to be they held their noses down. Today you won't find one Arab who would keep his nose down. The roads have become outright dangerous as of late. Before that we could have travelled the roads, only had to careful not to make wrong turns. Israeli news reports now are frequently about road killings, attempted hijackings, sniper shootings, etc. In fact, this is probably a major reason for your friends of old who today have a quandary about making Aliyah or not. They know full well the situation there. It is a matter of being Jewish that this threat makes itself tangible - not where the Jew lives. Because Israel belongs to every Jew, no matter where he or she lives, and they know it a - and yearn for Israel to become a sane place to live.in the vanguardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11796434751654291581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-74834907391463775622012-09-09T22:50:17.568+03:002012-09-09T22:50:17.568+03:00Paula, David, yes, there was something very focuse...Paula, David, yes, there was something very focused, or "never looked back" or even "the point of arrogance." David, you would have found yourselves waiting longer in Talbiye if you had chosen Shiloh. but maybe we'd be neighbors...<br /><br />Sharon, now that you're here, do you have regrets?<br /><br />Alan, I don't think you get it. Sorry, I don't know what you're referring to. I don't think that Jennifer considers "Israel is merely for Jewish refugees."Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-16332889654050900832012-09-09T22:37:40.974+03:002012-09-09T22:37:40.974+03:00The quality of American Jews has gone downhill ver...The quality of American Jews has gone downhill very badly in the past generation. You are lucky they did not arrive en masse. You'd be better off taking in even more Thailanders. Just keep your cats and dogs indoors when it's the Queens Birthday......<br /><br /><br />to Jennifer: your words make it sound like you feel that Israel is merely for Jewish refugees; you're too comfortable to bother. But you see, you're measuring the wrong thing. What good will your comfort do you when your great-grandkins are speaking Ebonics? Batya only has to worry that hers will end up complaining that Hebrew standup comedians give less minutes-of-performance/dollar-of-ticket to Israelis in Gush Dan, than to Israelis in Tarzana.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160350570530717935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-63217991846138413962012-09-09T16:22:29.042+03:002012-09-09T16:22:29.042+03:00How wonderful not to have regrets about the move t...How wonderful not to have regrets about the move to Israel and Shiloh! Kol Hakavod! Shana tovaSharon Ahttp://www.rjstreets.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-50137844803122422202012-09-09T15:08:50.943+03:002012-09-09T15:08:50.943+03:00We were all so sure of ourselves back then.To be h...We were all so sure of ourselves back then.To be honest even to the point of arrogance. Did we make the right choices? I felt almost as if I had no choice, that something inside me that I couldn't really explain was propelling me to make Aliya. I remember a meeting of the Shiloh garin in our 2 room apt in Talbieh. Ten young people in their 20's talking about settlement in the Shomron. In the end we went to the Golan but were forced to leave when our dream of cooperative living (moshav shitufi)collapsed. You and Winky are still in Shiloh and can rightfully be proud of what you have accomplished.Yasher Kochachem!!David Tzoharhttp://tzoharlateiva.bogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-91435425477530461372012-09-09T13:59:01.218+03:002012-09-09T13:59:01.218+03:00As always, Batya - an excellent article. I too fin...As always, Batya - an excellent article. I too find it so hard to imagine the aliyah of today. We came much later than you - only 19 years ago - but like you, we've never looked back, never thought we left something more precious than we found here. Kol hakavod for sharing what so many of us feel. Shana tova to you and yours! May it be a year of health, security and for once, intelligent government decisions on what is needed to ensure our continued safety in our land.A Soldier's Motherhttp://www.israelisoldiersmother.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-91722531888752107552012-09-09T11:00:24.512+03:002012-09-09T11:00:24.512+03:00We were so focused on the necesity of aliyah we ne...We were so focused on the necesity of aliyah we never saw any real problems with it.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-65240943814047548542012-09-09T08:29:47.741+03:002012-09-09T08:29:47.741+03:00Well said. Going as newlyweds was the best invest...Well said. Going as newlyweds was the best investment in your future. 20-years post-newlywed with kids ranging from 4-18, I am finding it much, MUCH harder to extricate myself. Families get MORE complicated as the years go by... parents get older, sisters get more fun to be with, everyone gets attached to your kids.<br />http://aliyahland.blogspot.ca/2012/09/saying-goodbye.html<br />My advice to everybody is - leave as young as possible; it only gets harder, until eventually, most of us find it nearly impossible to leave.Jennifer in MamaLandhttp://ronypony.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com