tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post828160682887203480..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Simple Sequencing to Prove Jewish Rights to Temple MountBatyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-89837531369169531102015-10-14T06:26:31.101+03:002015-10-14T06:26:31.101+03:00ExactlyExactlyBatyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-44653490705700701072015-10-14T05:46:10.170+03:002015-10-14T05:46:10.170+03:00I really can not understand some Jews, if we can c...I really can not understand some Jews, if we can call them that. What is the point of discussion here? The authenticity of the Temple? Any serious historian knows that there existed two Temples, any serious and honest historian knows that the Arabs have as much right to this earth as the Chinese, that is, no. Foreign philosophy, Western thought in which case the Arab thought permeated so strong in some Jews, who for some the pursuit of truth means to eradicate any Jewish ancestral identity. That's not the truth, is intellectual dishonesty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-34505287891216078862015-10-13T11:14:38.485+03:002015-10-13T11:14:38.485+03:00Shuki, nothing is blocked.
Mr. Cohen, thanks. An...Shuki, nothing is blocked. <br /><br />Mr. Cohen, thanks. And #5 says it all.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-31585114020396072462015-10-13T06:46:16.705+03:002015-10-13T06:46:16.705+03:00Cornelius Tacticus, the famous Jew-hating Roman hi...<b>Cornelius Tacticus</b>, the famous Jew-hating Roman historian who lived from year 56 CE (approximately) to year 120 CE said: <br /><br />“Much of Judea is thickly studded with villages, and the Jews have towns as well. <br />Their capital is Jerusalem. Here stood their Temple with its boundless riches.” <br /><br /><b>MODERN SOURCE OF QUOTE:</b> <br /><i>The Western World</i> (page 141) by Pearson Custom Publishing, year 2009 CE <br /><br /><b>ORIGINAL SOURCE OF QUOTE:</b> <br /><i>The Histories</i> by Tacitus, <i>The Jews</i> (Book 5), paragraph 8 of 13.<br /><br /><b>CONCLUSIONS FROM THIS QUOTE:</b> <br /><b>{1}</b> Muslims are LYING when they deny that Jews trace their historical origins to the Land of Israel. <br /><br /><b>{2}</b> Muslims are LYING when they deny that Jerusalem is the historical capital of the Jewish state. <br /><br /><b>{3}</b> Muslims are LYING when they deny that the Jewish Temple existed in Jerusalem.<br /><br /><b>{4}</b> Notice that Tacticus mentioned Judea, NOT Palestine.<br /><br /><b>{5}</b> Tacticus never mentioned the Palestinian people, even though he wrote much about Jews and their land, because there were no Palestinian people in his time.Mr. Cohenhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/DerechEmet/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-85267719485706228222015-10-13T06:29:07.818+03:002015-10-13T06:29:07.818+03:00So you block Shilohs response because you cannot b...So you block Shilohs response because you cannot back your claims with truth. SadShukinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-58766154983544460192015-10-12T23:22:44.497+03:002015-10-12T23:22:44.497+03:00Shiloh, why do you keep going into theology when I...Shiloh, why do you keep going into theology when I'm writing simple history. Obviously you have an agenda and you keep on trying to make points which have nothing to do with what I wrote.<br /><br />Unknown, Gd gave the Land to the Jewish People and being thrown out as punishment isn't to be permanent. It's to give us a chance to repent/return.<br /><br />dvorah rut, yes, that's why I blog, to say what the media won't.<br /><br />A, yes, amen.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-81636178115771329542015-10-12T21:13:35.989+03:002015-10-12T21:13:35.989+03:00RE Shilo's first comment. The Torah came befo...RE Shilo's first comment. The Torah came before everything and also gives us the history of creation. The nations, whether the Greeks, etc. have all taken their stories, mythologies, etc. from the Torah. Our Sages have written of this. The history of man is all described in the Torah. If one does not believe in each of the 13 principles of Faith, by the Rambam, then they do not believe in Torah and there is nothing further to discuss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-450497645499476862015-10-12T18:22:54.729+03:002015-10-12T18:22:54.729+03:00Dvorah, what about self respect, what about standi...Dvorah, what about self respect, what about standing up for your own people as a Nation, what about stopping the lies and charades of the goyim? We can work out our internal theological differences, that's a separate issue. We need to stand up and stop this theological argument crap, it will ONLY divide this house which will fall.Shilohnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-75472048522845641902015-10-12T17:35:28.290+03:002015-10-12T17:35:28.290+03:00Because of our sins we were expelled from our land...Because of our sins we were expelled from our land. You will pray these words tomorrow on Rosh Chodesh.<br /><br />So you think that one day after we were expelled can come along someone like yourself pointing out how all the land is ours?<br /><br />That's exactly what you're doing.<br /><br />It's incitement like that that's causing knifings today.<br /><br />But you want to be correct instead of wise.<br /><br />So go bump heads with the Arabs in your way and stop preaching or hollering like the old ladies at the wrestling matches in your hometown.<br /><br />Sicarii are ye?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06869634092827176237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-44694257058671106902015-10-12T16:14:18.623+03:002015-10-12T16:14:18.623+03:00It cannot happen because the leaders of this medin...It cannot happen because the leaders of this medina do not believe the truth of the Torah, the may learn it, the Tanach, but if you listen carefully, they always say something like, "our tradition says..." "the stories..." They read it as an intellectual exercise, but they do not believe in it's truth, or they believe it true, but not relevant in today's world. In either case, this is why they cannot use the truth of what is written in the Torah to defend even our right to exist on this Land, much less the right to Har HaBayit.Gavriela Dvorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18252950894736318448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-6831348760146637042015-10-12T13:57:17.815+03:002015-10-12T13:57:17.815+03:00Lol Batya, of course they matter because of we bui...Lol Batya, of course they matter because of we build our defense based on lies, don't expect good results. The victors rewrote history, that does not prove our derech is that of God, but as the prophets have warned, it is not. So you want to fight against an enemy who fabricated their history, maybe we need to realize that we have done the same thing, though a hard pill to swallow. The enemy is going for broke now, fight with truth, we will win, fight with partial truths and outright lies, we will fall. Shilohnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-3595683509009069242015-10-12T13:43:08.626+03:002015-10-12T13:43:08.626+03:00The dead civilizations are of no importance today....The dead civilizations are of no importance today. Same goes for early versilns of christianityBatyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-72733411831394239392015-10-12T11:57:56.706+03:002015-10-12T11:57:56.706+03:00Batya, if you want to get historical, one needs to...Batya, if you want to get historical, one needs to study the Sumerian Cuneiform Tablets. One will quickly see stories that radically predate the Torah are very similar to the Genesis account, including those who brought the flood, saved humanity, created humanity, destroyed Sodom etc etc. Tradition does not mean truth but contains truths with a motive.<br /><br />Just to clarify something that is simply misinformation. The Jesus movement consisted of Torah observant Jews who kept the law, this is even according to Church historians!! They did NOT believe that the law consisted of what we have as the Talmud but all Jewish law was based on the Tanach. They had their own beit din, Cohanim etc. They where in fact opposition Sadducean in practice with some overlapping beliefs that the Pharisaic (rabbinical) Jews held that where against the Sadduceans. The Jesus movement was called the Netzarim (not Notzrim).<br />This group was taken over by his brother James after the murder of Jesus. They continued his teachings and practice without any problem within the legitimate Jewish communities, though disagreements in that period were fierce, until the year 135 when the first Roman Gentile Bishop was put over the "church". This is what you are referring to when you speak of Christianity that we are familiar with today. The Pauline Roman Gentile Christianity that was against the "law", a 180 degree opposite of the actual movement that disagreed with both the pharisaic and sadducean movements on several areas. So Christianity as we know it is in fact an invented movement of truth covered in untruths.<br /><br />It is obvious that if one debunks Christianity with truth, by defalt Islam will also be shown to be false. It is a movement of submission under the guise of a religion. If one digs deeper into texts that predate the Torah, you can also see who the moon god is, the symbolism, and context of the creation. <br /><br />We don't have to really "prove" who was here first, because the base structure of the Temple mount has the exact base at Baalbek, Lebanon. Only difference is the size of the megalithic stones. That opens up a different can of worms. We simply need to put an end to the charade, we don't need to justify why other than this movement called the Palestinians was created to destroy us. That is good enough reason to put an end to this nonsense. Annex the land, and you know the rest of the game.Shilohnoreply@blogger.com