tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post7741314250428630053..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Jewish Birth ControlBatyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-26859351355587809662010-01-14T19:56:48.443+02:002010-01-14T19:56:48.443+02:00Good points from both of you. It's heart-brea...Good points from both of you. It's heart-breaking to see women in their mid-twenties looking wiped out and old dragging themselves and their four or more kids. Spread it out.<br /><br />In the states tuition and other expenses and the lack of maternity leave and benefits are causing families of two, three kids. So when you calculate the whole picture, birthrates and Jewish population are shrinking drastically.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11246929075812590204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-83296900006409203482010-01-14T18:36:55.899+02:002010-01-14T18:36:55.899+02:00I'd like to make a point here: I'm very ac...I'd like to make a point here: I'm very active working with women from the charedi/ B'T /non-religious segments of the population about Taharat Ha'mishpacha. UNLIKE about 20-30 years ago, most Rabbanim DO indeed give heterim for birth control.<br /><br /> No longer is it "3 months and that's all." Rather, "1 year, and then tell me how you feel." Rabbanim saw too many women in major depressions and in situations that left their families without a functioning mother. <br /><br />Sadly, there are many "Babot" and "Psuedo-rabbanim" that people shouldn't be asking advice from, who give ridiculous untenable "advice." The results are catastrophic!Netivotgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00746343586043134996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-13348712588089525862010-01-14T07:39:00.694+02:002010-01-14T07:39:00.694+02:00I just feel the need to point out that there's...I just feel the need to point out that there's a difference between having, say, 4 to 7 children, versus having 10+.<br /><br />I see too many cases in Israel of families (parents and children) that can't cope, both emotionally and financially. About the latter, I'm not talking about living beyond means. I'm talking about poverty, below the frugal line.<br /><br />Most of these cases are very religious people, of different "camps", with their Rabbis blessing them the more miserable life becomes for them, while at the same time prohibiting them from using any effective method of birth control.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-35033255922137475392010-01-13T23:48:38.357+02:002010-01-13T23:48:38.357+02:00nr, the BT part "rankles" in other ways....nr, the BT part "rankles" in other ways. Just like I was taught Shabbat and Kashrut, I was taught not to speak during dovening especially certain prayers. So when I see FFB's yapping away I go nuts.<br />re: your kids. Would you trade them in? No, so B"H, you had them.<br /><br />Esther, thanks, I could never imagine rasing my kids in Chu"L.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-63249483601109604432010-01-13T22:40:45.143+02:002010-01-13T22:40:45.143+02:00You hit the nail on the head about folks not knowi...You hit the nail on the head about folks not knowing how to live frugally there. I am grateful to Hashem that my parents were far from wealthy. I babysat and slaved every summer after age 12 to save money for college. <br /><br />Here, because it is not easy financially for many/ most of us, we can more easily raise our children with Torah-dik less materialistic outlooks. (Yes, I know it's not easy, but easier than in the States it is, I believe.)<br /><br />Just one more reason to thank Hashem for helping us make our homes here... at HOME!Netivotgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00746343586043134996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-69598113894303170462010-01-13T22:04:59.582+02:002010-01-13T22:04:59.582+02:00You've left Ba'al Teshuvahs out of your eq...You've left Ba'al Teshuvahs out of your equation. Many of us didn't know what we were in for having many children and wanting to educate them Jewish. By the time I figured it out, I already had my children (I started in my 30s), but I can see how an FFB who knew what to expect might not have as many children. Mainstream Jewish organizations' priorities have to change - and invest more in Jewish education, less in intercommunity outreach.nrhttp://nanaloshen.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com