tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post5443016847888545331..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Say: NO To Negotiations and Two State "Solution"Batyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-15237445820628835352013-09-30T23:33:02.943+03:002013-09-30T23:33:02.943+03:00Shlomo and David weren't contemporaries at all...Shlomo and David weren't contemporaries at all. What you wrote is more about King Shlomo, not at all King David.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-50704981809793429232013-09-30T14:13:43.790+03:002013-09-30T14:13:43.790+03:00>> if they are Jewish to learn some Jewish ...>> if they are Jewish to learn some Jewish history from real Jewish sources<br /><br /><br /><br />Everyone is entitled to their own opinions; no one is entitled to their own facts. <br /><br />David & Shlomo did NOT run dat-Moshe governments; they didn't even suppress pagan worship outside of the Mount Moriah; they didn't even build the Bet ha-Mikdash with dat-Moshe labor & funds. Shlomo's pagan ally, Hiram of Tyre did all the heavy lifting on Mount Moriah!!<br /><br />All of the above facts.... from your own holy books<br /><br />You can define your own flavor of "Torah Judaism"; you can't quote anything outside your own cult sources to convince me that it's older than (say for example) the Orthodox Coptic Church. <br /><br />It really just is not.<br /><br />Everyone in Israel who owns a shovel, can dig up the plain evidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-36935855570889488242013-09-24T23:43:11.654+03:002013-09-24T23:43:11.654+03:00to the "a" just above, thanks.to the "a" just above, thanks.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-50265538840908901992013-09-24T22:59:52.553+03:002013-09-24T22:59:52.553+03:00Just got to reading this latest article and was ha...Just got to reading this latest article and was happy, Batya, with your fine response to the above Anonymous. Do not know from where some of these people get their twisted information. Would suggest if they are Jewish to learn some Jewish history from real Jewish sources and start learning a little Torah. Israel is not only the Jewish country but the only country in the whole world that was given, literally, by the Almighty, to the Jewish nation. And, yet, that is the one country that the nations cannot seem to accept. They themselves got their borders through conquest and not by gentle means; not so, with the Jewish nation, as the conquest was done by G-D's command and with righteousness. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-79594842257104274272013-09-23T07:02:39.297+03:002013-09-23T07:02:39.297+03:00a, I can't quite figure out what your agenda i...a, I can't quite figure out what your agenda is, but it doesn't jive with known, accepted history nor archeological discoveries. <br /><br />There is no other People/Religion/Nation like the Jewish one. We are our own unique category.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-23968627809400784242013-09-23T01:33:50.544+03:002013-09-23T01:33:50.544+03:00it may be worthwhile for Hebrew-ethnic people to l...it may be worthwhile for Hebrew-ethnic people to learn Arabic. This is in the same category as a Toronto-an (Torontonian?)deciding for practical reasons that he'd like to be proficient in basic French.<br /><br />But there is a deeper issue. Israel is not the revival of an ancient Jewish country; there never was such a thing. What there is, is a long history of Hebrew Sovereigns who embraced dat-Moshe as the official cultural framework. This is exactly the same as the monarchy in England - the British Royal Family does not exist to assist and serve the Anglican Church; the opposite is true.<br /><br />Hebrew sovereignty is the only theoretical framework in which the large number of "Christian Arabs", Cherkassi Muslims (and maybe somedayCoptic youth-aliya refugees fleeing Egypt for their life) can fill up the Hebrew Army with loyal soldiers - and happily co-exist with other Hebrew-speaking people in the Motherland of the Hebrew-ethnic people (we mention this because in the times of early Rome, there WERE Hebrew speaking city-states in North Africa). And they can join in filling up Judea & Samaria with people who agree that Mount Moriah ==was== the location of a Hebrew-speaking dat-Moshe shrine since 4000 years ago. <br /><br />Hebrew should be the ONLY official language of ISrael; we should simultaneously encourage Israelis to learn some supermarket Arabic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-65567265822150737892013-09-22T10:01:44.616+03:002013-09-22T10:01:44.616+03:00goyish, we do need to learn Arabic. I'm sure ...goyish, we do need to learn Arabic. I'm sure we're missing out in important information.<br />Norman, with what don't you agree? me or goyish?<br />And where did I mention "assimilate?"Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-57935732888501796402013-09-22T09:18:01.068+03:002013-09-22T09:18:01.068+03:00I don't agree.
Bernard Avishai points out the...I don't agree.<br /><br />Bernard Avishai points out the British attempt to assimilate the French Canadians into English Canada failed. He dubs the so-called One State school as Durhamism. If it was unworkable in Canada, its even more unworkable in the Middle East.<br /><br />The Two State school suffers from a different flaw in that it assumes you can split the difference. We can call it Peelism after the British Peel Commission that first recommended it in the late 1930s. All variants of it, including Oslo - have gone nowhere.<br /><br />There is no obvious solution. And when politicians and diplomats try to force an artificial outcome, real people suffer. There is no urgent need to change the status quo. We have to give it patience and time.<br /><br /><br />NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-23845536587774340502013-09-22T08:49:17.345+03:002013-09-22T08:49:17.345+03:00Eventually we and our neighbors will grow closer a...Eventually we and our neighbors will grow closer and the situation will improve, but it will be the end of a process and not by external political moves. We need strong security in the short run and Israeli Jews need to learn Arabic.goyisherebbehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09380171052449799815noreply@blogger.com