tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post4740214006177039445..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Torah Judaism, Is It Enough to Be Spiritual Without Keeping The Laws?Batyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-21032541458569924142010-07-14T17:36:54.274+03:002010-07-14T17:36:54.274+03:00Susan B, halacha does change. That's the beau...Susan B, halacha does change. That's the beauty, because it's meant to last.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-87085580855252835362010-07-14T01:12:41.205+03:002010-07-14T01:12:41.205+03:00I suppose it's possible that God's expecta...I suppose it's possible that God's expectations of us haven't changed, but certainly our expectations of ourselves have changed. Halacha has changed over time. <br /><br />We can't keep all the mitzvot because there is no longer a Temple in which to make animal sacrifices. And not everyone agrees on the details of halacha.<br /><br />I'd agree it's not enough to be a spriritual Jew without keeping any of the laws, but I'd say it is enough to be spiritual without keeping all the laws, particularly since none of us is capable of keeping all the laws.Susan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00840373234747823781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-91566092094118466162010-07-07T10:51:32.327+03:002010-07-07T10:51:32.327+03:00Moriah, yes, it's a sad old story. Thanks for...Moriah, yes, it's a sad old story. Thanks for your comment.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11246929075812590204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-58766072168306831572010-07-07T10:14:55.660+03:002010-07-07T10:14:55.660+03:00"Torah Judaism, Is It Enough to Be Spiritual ..."Torah Judaism, Is It Enough to Be Spiritual Without Keeping The Laws?"<br /><br />Of course not. Not if You're a Jew. We have a covenant with Hashem. His expectation of us has not changed. And it will never change. It has been us who have changed in the past saying, we don't need to follow 'those' laws in 'our' day. But we do need to follow the laws. G-d is not a man that the should change His mind. G-d did not make anything/laws too hard for his creation to follow. It is for our benefit..Moriahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10031303390387367887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-32895095986552969682010-07-05T05:40:30.674+03:002010-07-05T05:40:30.674+03:00Hadassa, too many Jewish people don't even com...Hadassa, too many Jewish people don't even complain. Religion just doesn't interest them.<br /><br />Minne Ma, thanks. Torah Judaism isn't all that rigid the more you know it. In my neck of the woods, the vast majority of the married (and formerly married) women cover their hair in such a variety of ways for example. Also Shabbat meals can be pizza and quiche, rather than chicken soup and kugel, as long as it's all prepared in advance, no cooking on Shabbat etc.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-49111284423554201542010-07-05T01:57:35.033+03:002010-07-05T01:57:35.033+03:00batya, i like & respect your response.
we...batya, i like & respect your response. <br /><br />we've already discussed this, but i still think that there's more than one way to *do* things and i appreciate people doing some in lieu of none. what a shame for someone to not practice any form of religion/ spirituality if they feel like it's "not enough."<br /><br />this was a well done post! thanks much for that. feel free to leave a link to it so others can come on over and read it, too.Minnesota Mamalehhttp://tcjewfolk.com/category/minnesota-mamaleh/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-8678998981967109552010-07-05T01:29:39.321+03:002010-07-05T01:29:39.321+03:00Shalom!
Unfortunately she's not searching, jus...Shalom!<br />Unfortunately she's not searching, just complaining... I respect the searchers, even if they haven't started looking in the right direction yet.Hadassanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-11329281397106709782010-07-04T21:25:39.156+03:002010-07-04T21:25:39.156+03:00Hadassa, I wish there were more who are at least s...Hadassa, I wish there were more who are at least searching. Few of my relatives are.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-57110390508120573842010-07-04T19:00:41.792+03:002010-07-04T19:00:41.792+03:00Shalom!
We have a non-religious (nominally Conserv...Shalom!<br />We have a non-religious (nominally Conservative) relative who complained that observing the mitzvot takes all the spirituality out of Judaism. I imagine that there are many more like her. Yoni, I'm sorry, but many Jews do "go that far".Hadassanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-21371669169734100232010-07-04T15:15:48.332+03:002010-07-04T15:15:48.332+03:00no, not christians, just Jews who think they can g...no, not christians, just Jews who think they can get Judaism from the "abridged" version.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-41861940509655556792010-07-04T14:43:21.141+03:002010-07-04T14:43:21.141+03:00who are you talking about here, christians? which ...who are you talking about here, christians? which jews claim that "spirituality is enough without action or ritual"? even the reform don't go this far, as far as i know. this may be an "old debate" between jews and christians, but among jews?yoninoreply@blogger.com