tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post4462187003034782126..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: The State of Israel Sixty Years Hence - Second ScenarioBatyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-26410650861642293072008-05-06T11:51:00.000+03:002008-05-06T11:51:00.000+03:00Julie, I don't think that is what Shifra is talkin...Julie, I don't think that is what Shifra is talking about, but I am reserving my comments till after I see part 3 - then I will respond to all of the scenarios at one time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-38194717620360912502008-05-06T11:22:00.000+03:002008-05-06T11:22:00.000+03:00RE:scenario 2 -- might or might not be plausible ...RE:scenario 2 -- might or might not be plausible -- I cannot comment on the likelihood of Israelis giving up and fleeing Israel since I cannot see the Israeli viewpoint and have not experienced anything that might cause me to flee my country.<BR/>However, I think it may be a bit naive, if that's the word I want, because<BR/><BR/>1)chances are, the way our political system is working here, there won't be anything available for humanitarian aid because the leadership has already sucked dry every resource the U.S. has with pet projects to benefit themselves and provide "public services" for too many people I don't believe it is the responsibility of a government to provide it's citizens with everything they need, let alone any of the things they want. And the trend in the Democratic party here is to do just that with obscenely more going to those who do not work (who also tend to be in the minority) than to those who do the work that provides the $ for the aforementioned. That really ticks me off when minorities get more rights than anyone else and get provisions without earning them and still scream for "equal" rights! Emergency aid is one thing, to me meaning basic shelter from elements and very basic food and medical care in times of natural disaster-type emergency -- to keep refugees alive -- and on a very short-term basis while refugees regroup and resume supporting themselves, either in their own countries or after becoming US citizens. Re-education, long-term housing, or school for children of refugees, etc., in my opinion, should not be considered "humanitarian aid." Those fall under the umbrella of public services, which I don't believe many of those getting them now (even the US citizens) should be getting. (I believe we are all responsible for supporting ourselves and utilizing the opportunities our form of government allows in order to support ourselves and improve our lives and that nobody has a "right" to housing or any other commodity or provision without working for it. The exception in my book is those who are literally unable to work (truly handicapped, etc.) Unfortunately, the system that provides for those with TRUE need is easily abused, but doing away with it would leave those with TRUE need without necessities for life. I definitely do not believe ANY non-US-citizens should EVER receive ANY such "aid" or services from the US government.<BR/> <BR/>2)In 60 years there may not be any US public desire to do anything humanitarian for others in need if our current system continues to be strained by illegal immigrants. At some point, the public (and eventually the leadership) will cease to care so much about other nations because ours will be so overburdened and we will be numb to the plight of those in need. That said, it seems less likely that Israelis would flee to THAT America. Though, Europe may be a worse option in 60 years, who knows?<BR/><BR/>3)In terms of change/reform, things tend to do the pendulum thing, swinging way one way then the other before gradually settling in the center. I think if our immigration policy changes from the current extreme openness (basically not enforcing the policy and allowing illegal immigrants benefits of citizenship) to the opposite extreme of super-strict policy allowing very little immigrants or even refugees), before it will find center. So in 60 years, American may not be a refugee option.<BR/><BR/>-JulieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com