tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post3930795791973059261..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: What's Christianity?Batyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-75022636250479842172011-08-26T05:30:55.957+03:002011-08-26T05:30:55.957+03:00Beckie, I don't know who you are but what you ...Beckie, I don't know who you are but what you are is obvious. Your language is unacceptable. It reflects badly on yourself.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-87150304920917075502011-08-26T01:32:40.379+03:002011-08-26T01:32:40.379+03:00B"H
Batya,
Do you actually have any Xtian f...B"H<br /><br />Batya,<br /><br />Do you actually have any Xtian friends? Is their blood not pure enough for you? What a profound bigot you are. It is not "worship" to respect and admire a sincere friend. You are the biggest chillul Hashem. You don't represent observant Jews (for all you non-Jews here).Beckienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-64799695124281774882011-08-25T18:33:08.625+03:002011-08-25T18:33:08.625+03:00Beckie, I suggest you try yiddishkeit untainted by...Beckie, I suggest you try yiddishkeit untainted by worship of friendly christians.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-82046673060462224102011-08-25T18:12:23.633+03:002011-08-25T18:12:23.633+03:00B"H
Batya,
What kind of Yiddishkeit do you s...B"H<br /><br />Batya,<br />What kind of Yiddishkeit do you subscribe to? EVERY Jew (including me) must constantly make teshuva. Perhaps you need a new rabbi if you have not been instructed properly. You could definitely use some chassidus, IMHO. Gd bless you.Beckienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-40351555271503345112011-08-25T06:46:53.197+03:002011-08-25T06:46:53.197+03:00Beckie, who in the world are you to give us orders...Beckie, who in the world are you to give us orders about teshuva? I choose my own rabbi as instructed in the Mishne and he's not you!Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-16460971585725478332011-08-25T06:18:34.266+03:002011-08-25T06:18:34.266+03:00B"H
Batya, Keli Ata....time to make teshuva ...B"H<br /><br />Batya, Keli Ata....time to make teshuva girls.Beckienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-15280346580647915212011-08-25T05:21:44.488+03:002011-08-25T05:21:44.488+03:00Thank you very much, Batya:)Thank you very much, Batya:)Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-76442014668308696752011-08-24T06:14:32.158+03:002011-08-24T06:14:32.158+03:00Beckie, I don't have to approve Jews cheering ...Beckie, I don't have to approve Jews cheering at Christian religious events. I want the true G-d's approval, not Beck's nor yours.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-65535852101369702502011-08-23T22:32:49.133+03:002011-08-23T22:32:49.133+03:00B"H
The opposition on this blog to GB is just...B"H<br />The opposition on this blog to GB is just moral retardation; and I mean that literally. How pathetic you are and what a chillul Hashem to be so prejudiced against someone who feels called to support your sorry selves. Woe onto you. May Gd give you the sechel, you so obviously lack and open your eyes to your true enemies.Beckienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-13483381409892893712011-08-23T15:38:59.383+03:002011-08-23T15:38:59.383+03:00Devash, sadly true.Devash, sadly true.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-3700261505279204932011-08-23T15:06:37.903+03:002011-08-23T15:06:37.903+03:00Jews are friers for falling for this. I can't...Jews are friers for falling for this. I can't stand it when people reply, <i>"But they say..." </i> "They" lie!! It's a soul-winning tactic and everything is permitted!<br /><br />Quote: "...Beck's cultivation of Israeli leaders follows, step by step, the instructions Christian Zionists have used to gain access to Jewish communities and leaders. One of the most popular of these manuals is the 2001 book, "Your People Shall Be My People," by Don Finto. Finto's network of evangelists is encouraging churches around the world to "bless Israel" by supporting Messianic Jewish ministries and proselytizing Jews. His book has been promoted internationally, including by directors of Hagee's CUFI. <br /><br />Finto's book provides instructions to: 1 ) avoid overt proselytizing, 2 ) vocally repent of the Holocaust, 3 ) tell Jews that Christian Zionist support is modeled after the biblical story of Ruth with no strings attached, and 4 ) emphasize that Christian Zionists are Israel's only friends in an increasingly hostile world."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/with-friends-like-glenn-beck-1.380155" rel="nofollow"> With friends like Glenn Beck...</a>Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-17122244925458405852011-08-22T23:32:03.131+03:002011-08-22T23:32:03.131+03:00Keli, that's a fantastic point, thanks.Keli, that's a fantastic point, thanks.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-2132077174406341492011-08-22T23:31:31.179+03:002011-08-22T23:31:31.179+03:00Just Shu, if Glenn Beck really thinks "Jews a...Just Shu, if Glenn Beck really thinks "Jews are the apple of G-ds eye, and the only people to hold true to his words over the past few thousand years," then how can he continue to follow a religion that is in direct opposition? The same goes for all the Christians who claim that we Jews are "so special and right."<br /><br />If that's what they believe then they should be Noahide or Jewish. Since they haven't rejected Christianity, then they're just lying about what they think of Jews.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-72057681473935225642011-08-22T22:01:40.297+03:002011-08-22T22:01:40.297+03:00In the 1970s cults were a big thing in the US. One...In the 1970s cults were a big thing in the US. One of their tactics was to "love bomb" the person they wanted to lure into their cults. Another ploy was to expose the person to lengthy rallies and lectures.Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-31431390868030438762011-08-22T20:35:57.604+03:002011-08-22T20:35:57.604+03:00Hi,
I just want to know how you justify writing G...Hi,<br /><br />I just want to know how you justify writing G-d's names in Hebrew, and claiming to follow Torah.<br /><br />Second, it is fine to agree with good points that people make, even if they have an ulterior motive. For instance, when a pushy salesman makes good points, I simply say, "You're right, but I'm not buying." And then I smile and walk away.<br /><br />If Beck would try to convert me, I'd say, "Glenn, let's just agree on the other stuff, but I'm not converting today."<br /><br />M@Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-44861434530429574072011-08-22T17:42:21.408+03:002011-08-22T17:42:21.408+03:00I repeat: The idea that the Jews have a mission t...I repeat: The idea that the Jews have a mission to go the gentiles and spread the Jewish "gospel" to the whole world is an assimilated xian concept. The Jews' job in this world is to perform mitzvot in order to rectify and bring perfection to the world. <br /><br />There is NO MITZVA - no obligation - to go to the gentiles. If they come to us, there is halacha for how to respond.Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-44596614596378701442011-08-22T17:35:50.118+03:002011-08-22T17:35:50.118+03:00@Anonymous:
First of all, “The Creator’s Tanakh” ...@Anonymous:<br /><br />First of all, <i>“The Creator’s Tanakh”</i> and the <i>“Jewish Tanakh”</i> are one and the same. The Torah was not given over for <i>“transmission”</i> to anyone except the descendants of those to whom it was entrusted. It is meant to be lived, not taught. The teaching is only a means to an end - the education of Jews for the performance of mitzvot; not an end in itself – the transmission of information for the sake of knowing. It is actually forbidden to teach Torah to gentiles except for the bare minimum that they need to keep their sheva mitzvot Bnai Noach.<br /><br />You ask <i>“priests to who?”</i> To the Creator of the World, of course. We serve HIM, not the nations of the world. The Tanakh teaches that the creation itself proclaims the existence of the Creator. Avraham Avinu was himself raised in an idolatrous household, but he came to the knowledge of the Truth without benefit of an emissary. HaKadosh Baruch Hu has promised that He will reveal Himself and the ultimate truth to anyone willing to pay the price of personal sacrifice – <i>“You will seek Me and find [Me] if you will seek Me with all your heart.” (Yirmiyahu 29:13)</i> Also, many converts testify to the fact that the truth is out there for anyone who is interested in finding it. Many people have found their way to Judaism without benefit of a personal encounter with a Jew. And how much more so today with all the information available in books and on the internet!<br /><br />No one would say that the gentile nations are not loved and cared for by the Creator, but they are not the center of the universe. They are G-d’s creatures, but ONLY YISRAEL are His children.<br /><br />The coming Mashiach is coming for the Jews, just as the Jewish prophets foretold and just as the Jews have been praying for the last few millennia. Those gentiles who survive the cut will benefit from the life of the messianic era, but it is not for or about them. In fact, according to Jewish sources, the entire world will become Eretz Yisrael and the righteous gentiles will be an appendage to Yisrael. They will no longer have any independent identity. <br /><br />Bayit Shlishi will be like Bayit Rishon and Bayit Sheini in that it is primarily for Jews. Gentiles are allowed to make their sacrifices anywhere, but the Jew may only bring his offerings to the Holy Temple. A gentile may send an offering to the Temple, but he cannot stand in the same place as a Jew. “A House of Prayer for all Nations” is a very misunderstood concept. It means simply that the People of Israel is made up of people from every nation and is open to accept converts from every nation.Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-59811096582923527832011-08-22T16:11:22.459+03:002011-08-22T16:11:22.459+03:00@ Davash
Hashem's tanach (NOT Jewish tanach) w...@ Davash<br /><b>Hashem's tanach (NOT Jewish tanach) was given to the Jews for transmission to all of mankind !<br />Israel is a nation of priests, but priest to who ? to themselves ?<br /><br />It is INCONSISTENT with Hashem's character to punish a people for idol worship when idolatry is all they have ever known and no Jew has ever told them about Hashem because Jews do not proselytize. There are many (huge number) of tribes and cultures in history that never had any contact with Jews to see the "light to the nations" Yet these people are also important to Hashem !<br /><br />Beside why bother sending Jonah to Nineveh and even go to great length to force him when he refused ? It shows the Ninevehs are as important to Hashem as the Jew.<br /><br />The coming maschiac will be Hashem's messenger to all of mankind and his dominion will be worldwide "sea to sea" not just a parcel of land in the middle east ! <br /><br />The next temple will NOT be a Jewish temple but Hashem's house of prayer for all nations !</b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-83763607964606967702011-08-22T15:36:08.685+03:002011-08-22T15:36:08.685+03:00I live in Ariel and there was an Email that went a...I live in Ariel and there was an Email that went around on the Dati email list basically saying that if there is someone like Glenn Beck, who is willing to publicly back Israel and Shomron, than it is important for people to go and support it. <br />So my wife and a few friends went, and they said it was nice, and not preachy but a lot about how the Jews are the apple of G-ds eye, and the only people to hold true to his words over the past few thousand years.Just Shuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15840931056940808145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-86839467513496848512011-08-22T13:16:49.976+03:002011-08-22T13:16:49.976+03:00About being a "light to the nations." S...About being a "light to the nations." Some people erroneously think this means we are supposed to be Jewish missionaries going into the whole world and trying to convince all the goyim to become Noahides at the least and even Jews! Nothing could be further from the truth. There is no mitzva to be a "light to the nations." It's not a commandment. It is a statement of FACT. When Am Yisrael is dwelling in their own land creating and living a Torah society, the world will observe and imitate our good ways. We are like a city on a hill surrounded by darkness and those within that darkness are attracted to the shining light of the vibrant city. The "light" does not go anywhere, it simply shines out. The other mistaken idea comes from xianity's errors. Naturally, those within that false system will relate to the only thing they've ever known---the missionary mandate called The Great Commission. <br /><br />To the xian who commented. It is you who will be shocked. Yeshu is dead and he's never coming back. And our righteous Mashiach will order the deaths of all those idolaters who refuse to leave our Holy Land. He will also destroy all the foreign places of worship. Prepare for it. It won't be long in coming.Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-8950694528297072012011-08-22T12:40:37.599+03:002011-08-22T12:40:37.599+03:00Devash, there are so many fronts to our battles th...Devash, there are so many fronts to our battles that nobody must fight on all. Share the burden, right?<br /><br />a's? are you all the same?<br />Until you find some way of identifying yourself/yourselves I can't respond or relate to anything written under the "name Anonymous"<br /><br />Please delete and repost.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-22564526699042277792011-08-22T11:50:06.444+03:002011-08-22T11:50:06.444+03:00those who feel HIS way is outdated and in line wit...those who feel HIS way is outdated and in line with modern technology, so be it. as it is written. i n the path you wish to go Hashem will lead you.<br /><br />typo error above, should be, 'those who feel HIS way is outdated and NOT in line with modern technology....<br /><br />sorry and thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-29399883651771990752011-08-22T11:47:43.772+03:002011-08-22T11:47:43.772+03:00anonymous, no one ever wrote that jews should not ...anonymous, no one ever wrote that jews should not reach out to non jews. in fact jews are told by Hashem to be a light to all nations, to teach us the 7 laws etc. He also told you all NOT to be snared by the ways of those living around you. Hashem wants to save all of us, and HE has given specific ways to do that. those who feel HIS way is outdated and in line with modern technology, so be it. as it is written. i n the path you wish to go Hashem will lead you.<br />i stand corrected if i am wrong, but i have read that Rashi's teacher, Rabbi Gershom, a famous torah scholar, his son had converted to xtianity and died a xtian. need i say more on this issue.<br />i also remember reading a year or two ago, how a palestinian who had converted to judaism, he and his whole family and lived an orthodox life for over 6 years, yet he drove his own brother on a sucide mission.6 years he fooled everyone . and then he showed his colors. there are many good xtians, many good hindus and people of other faith, who live in ignorance. but missionaries always had an agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-69061327631071744782011-08-22T11:32:18.558+03:002011-08-22T11:32:18.558+03:00There is a lot of problem with your definition of ...<b>There is a lot of problem with your definition of Christianity, but I am confident that at the appointed time Hashem will straighten out all misunderstandings.<br /><br />However my fear and prayer is that before that time comes you (Tomer and others) will never reach that point where you pick up weapons to defend Hashem against Christians !<br /><br />The rabbinic consolation/afterthought called Noahid is fascinating to say the least ! Why would Hashem go to great length to FORCE Jonah to go to goy Nineveh.<br /><br />The moschiac is going to SHOCK the whole world but the Jews are going to be more shocked than everyone else !!</b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-31972034808698445092011-08-22T11:06:00.968+03:002011-08-22T11:06:00.968+03:00what batya has written is very correct and thats f...what batya has written is very correct and thats from me, a xt for the first half of my life and now thank G-d a noahide. 'not a goy' wrote, do you know any torah believing jews who have converted. go to Rabbi Tovia singer and ask him, he answers to xtianity, just how many innocent jews who do not come from orthodox back grounds have been beguiled, and why is there messianic xtians to there. it is still xtianity. how many non jews and non orthodox jews or messianic jews will have their wrong paths confirmed when they see so many orth jews give this guy so much publicity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com