tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post356494593545677571..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Cheshbon HaNefesh - Some Perspectives on Tzuk EitanBatyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-4195523007278979532014-09-01T22:34:33.909+03:002014-09-01T22:34:33.909+03:00Again I wish to thank Yitz for blogging here, and ...Again I wish to thank Yitz for blogging here, and I thank all of you for joining the discussion.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-81861650003675647792014-09-01T21:52:57.169+03:002014-09-01T21:52:57.169+03:00Just wanted to thank Yitz for his great answer to ...Just wanted to thank Yitz for his great answer to Shiloh. We must always remember - Netzach Yisrael lo y'shaker!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-84326902662329858892014-09-01T16:53:21.147+03:002014-09-01T16:53:21.147+03:002. You don't need to think this particular web...2. You don't need to think this particular website is very good, to think there's a possibility of war (or rockets) on all fronts. <br /><br />To quote it (with some comments in brackets) <br /><br /><i> Israel is now faced with an acute military threat of a nature that nobody has ever actually faced in combat: the entirety of the tiny country of Israel has turned in to a pinball for Iranian full-fledged, accurate and heavily armed, Ballistic missiles, launched from the Lebanon, </i> [just Lebanon? They are also in Syria!] <i> which can disable the country </i> [if there are not enough Iron dome anti-missiles] <i> until it is fully invaded by droves of hundreds of thousands of Jihadists of both Sunni and Shiite Muslims, whose joint goal is to overtake Jerusalem. </i> <br /><br />Missiles can't be fired to the same place where the invaders are. I think such a barrage of missiles would be an attempt not so much as to disable the country, as to disable or disrupt mobilization. But it really couldn't do that. <br /><br />And even closing Ben Gurion airport to civilian traffic would not prevent re-supply of military material, or essential imports.<br /><br />Also the missile launching sites may be more exposed and attackable than those in Gaza.<br /><br />One thing is that such a war seems dependent on ISIS and Iran/Assad coming to an agreement. How would they split up the territory? Or would this be dependent on Bashar Assad being out of the picture?<br /><br />Getting rid of UN peacekeepers in Gaza ndeed could be preparatory to a war, that's true. <br /><br />The forces now by the Golan seem linked to al Qaeda and Qatar, with some other forces that are allied with them, but not with ISIS.<br /><br />It looks like somebody is planning something, or hoping to, but it is not clear what.<br /><br />I am not sure whatever plans are in the works are even workable.<br /><br />Maybe they think Hezbollah and Syria can be persuaded to start firing and then double-crossed by ISIS or whoever. (Israel would be is allowed to destroy their headquarters.)<br /><br />And then maybe the Saudi backed jihadists and others would swoop in and attack?<br /><br />But then also, there are probably more than enough Israeli soldiers to deal both with Gaza and others at the same time.Sammy Finkelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05105012664741556033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-20248551969467559852014-09-01T16:41:52.000+03:002014-09-01T16:41:52.000+03:00Netanyahu probably did not anticipate certain inte...Netanyahu probably did not anticipate certain international legal maneuvers, and that's his fault, and he may be too afraid that something will hurt the relationship with the United States and countries in Europe. He very much wants their support on Iran.<br /><br />Moshe Feiglin is correct that Israel is afraid to win, and that that is a weakness, but he doesn't give an argument as to why being afraid to win is wrong.Sammy Finkelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05105012664741556033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-80993606511870714412014-09-01T15:38:53.153+03:002014-09-01T15:38:53.153+03:00Batya: I find Feiglin's words ringing true, ti...Batya: I find Feiglin's words ringing true, time after time. I disagree with his TACTICS, but not his ideas. My vision is really broader - I'd like to see Feiglin, Eldad, Marzel, Ben-Ari AND the religious parties (including the Chareidim) band together -- together they could rule without any secular party.<br /><br />Shiloh: I read that piece. I'm not concerned that Israel will be destroyed, chas v'shalom...based on the Zohar 32a: <br />וַעֲתִידִים בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל לְעוֹרֵר מִלְחָמוֹת גְּדוֹלוֹת בָּעוֹלָם, וְיִתְאַסְּפוּ בְּנֵי אֱדוֹם עֲלֵיהֶם, וְיַעֲרְכוּ עִמָּהֶם מִלְחָמָה, אַחַת עַל הַיָּם, וְאַחַת עַל הַיַּבָּשָׁה, וְאַחַת סָמוּךְ לִירוּשָׁלַיִם, וְיִמְשְׁלוּ אֵלּוּ עַל אֵלּוּ, וְאֶרֶץ הַקְּדוֹשָׁה לֹא תִּמָּסֵר לִבְנֵי אֱדוֹם. בְּאוֹתוֹ זְמָן, יִתְעוֹרֵר עַם אֶחָד מִסּוֹף הָעוֹלָם עַל רוֹמִי הָרְשָׁעָה, וְיַעֲרֹךְ עָלֶיהָ מִלְחָמָה שְׁל. שָה חָדֳשִׁים, וְיִתְאַסְּפוּ שָׁם עַמִּים, וְיִפְּלוּ בִּידֵיהֶם, עַד שֶׁיֵּאָסְפוּ עָלֶיהָ כָּל בְּנֵי אֱדוֹם מִכָּל קַצְוֵי הָעוֹלָם. וְאָז יִתְעוֹרֵר הַקָּדוֹשׁ בָּרוּךְ הוּא עֲלֵיהֶם. זֶהוּ שֶׁכָּתוּב, כִּי זֶבַח לַה' בְּבָצְרָה. וּלְאַחַר כָּךְ, מַה כָּתוּב, לֶאֱחֹז בְּכַנְפוֹת הָאָרֶץ וְגוֹ', וִיכַלֶּה אֶת בְּנֵי יִשְׁמָעֵאל מִן הָאָרֶץ, וִישַׁבֵּר כָּל הַכֹּחוֹת שֶׁלְּמַעְלָה, וְלֹא יִשָּׁאֵר כֹּחַ לְמַעְלָה עַל עַם הָעוֹלָם, דְּהַיְנוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל, אֶלָּא כֹּחַ יִשְׂרָאֵל בִּלְבַדּוֹ.yitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08523302947845887661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-18999941137721024952014-08-31T18:55:19.597+03:002014-08-31T18:55:19.597+03:00Yitz thanks for this important post. I voted for E...Yitz thanks for this important post. I voted for Eldad, not Bibi's Likud. And I do not trust Feiglin because he is Likud. If he had really wanted a Right revolution true Jewish leadership he would have had joined with Eldad and Ben-Ari.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.com