tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post2641916518575549348..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Executing Arab Terrorists on The Spot, Good or Bad?Batyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-32610636597106451632015-11-11T23:03:04.538+02:002015-11-11T23:03:04.538+02:00You, Batya...
The Torah very strongly opposes ext...You, Batya...<br /><br />The Torah very strongly opposes extrajudicial executions. The present halacha is that the true smicha was lost, therefore there could not be any jewish court pronouncing death penalties. <br /><br />Now, I don't know if your position is that you want to try and find the lost smiha and reintroduce a "jewish death penalty".<br />This would imply that adultery, heresy, male homosexuality, shabbat breaking, witchcraft, etc. could be punished by capital punishment. Note that it is more probably that "crimes" like "heresy" would meet the very stringent conditions (2 witnesses & warning) than murder (which tend to be committed in secret).<br /><br />I, personally, would not like to live in a state where heresy or shabbat breaking is punished by capital punishment, even if I personally keep shabbat. <br /><br />You cannot just brandy the torah when it suits you, to justify the killing of palestinians.<br /><br />Note further that "din rodef" only applies in situations of imminent danger when no other means than killing is available to stop the rodef, very similar to the right of self-defense or alter ego defense in other judicial systems.... <br /><br />Note further that a very strange interpretation of the concept of "din rodef" lead to Rabin's assassination...Oranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-83100347032481141242015-11-10T10:14:16.489+02:002015-11-10T10:14:16.489+02:00who?who?Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-51653030030369214722015-11-10T09:44:13.438+02:002015-11-10T09:44:13.438+02:00wow, you really don't know your torah & ha...wow, you really don't know your torah & halacha...oranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-13303927039448927832015-11-06T05:44:50.601+02:002015-11-06T05:44:50.601+02:00Yonathan Gormezano, exactly.
a 6/11/15 03:17, yes...Yonathan Gormezano, exactly.<br />a 6/11/15 03:17, yes<br />Jenny, it's more like self-defense in a war situation. Remember, there's a war against us here.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-4361799129471471752015-11-06T04:38:12.076+02:002015-11-06T04:38:12.076+02:00Lynching is murder.
JennyLynching is murder.<br />JennyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-65265798787305933072015-11-06T03:17:24.683+02:002015-11-06T03:17:24.683+02:00That has such a simple answer; the Torah tells us ...That has such a simple answer; the Torah tells us exactly what to do. He who comes to kill you, kill him first. It is war, no doubt, but now is a time when words are twisted and nothing makes sense - a terrorist is an activist or a militant, etc., etc. and lies continue and people for all the garbage. When there is no leadership in the world, anything goes, r'l.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-68473768243110534872015-11-05T10:59:20.534+02:002015-11-05T10:59:20.534+02:00If the terrorist is not killed he/she will spend a...If the terrorist is not killed he/she will spend a few years in prison (with all the 5-star conditions the Arabs receive in Israeli prisons) and then be released in a deal - like the almost 1000 who were released in the infamous Shalit deal a few years ago.Yonathan Gormezanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041555276987889503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-78887199458157073072015-11-04T22:36:44.590+02:002015-11-04T22:36:44.590+02:00yepyepBatyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-40376038889927169252015-11-04T20:34:08.417+02:002015-11-04T20:34:08.417+02:00And if since the gov't said the bodies are not...And if since the gov't said the bodies are not returned, and then on Shabbat they are, the muzrats just laugh at us. What do we expect. They believe in their fabricated shtick more then we believe in ourselves and us creating our own destiny. Wake up Israel.Shilohnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-72530030513648470742015-11-04T19:49:41.474+02:002015-11-04T19:49:41.474+02:00A war is s warA war is s warBatyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-80039825580670261312015-11-04T07:48:47.535+02:002015-11-04T07:48:47.535+02:00Yup.
Israel is too squeamish to bring in the deat...Yup.<br /><br />Israel is too squeamish to bring in the death penalty for murder.<br /><br />Let me guess: it would upset Jew-hating Europeans? I've never understood why Israel values their views so highly.<br /><br />Deterring Arabs from murdering Jews should be the priority.<br /><br />As the Talmud rightly says, "kill him who comes to kill you, first."<br /><br />Survival is not an option.NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-50116898737385680802015-11-04T07:04:09.862+02:002015-11-04T07:04:09.862+02:00You make a good point that many fail to realize; i...You make a good point that many fail to realize; it IS a war. Agree fully with your logic.Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.com