tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post2525233194330002558..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Which "New Year" is Yours?Batyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-25704496369401816662013-01-06T10:24:58.832+02:002013-01-06T10:24:58.832+02:00>> What are "rabbincally decided time...>> What are "rabbincally decided times", Alan?<br /><br /><br />The times we see mentioned in calendars and newspapers. Someone, somewhere, picked out that moment in time. By the way, Shy guy, how do ==you== decide when Shabbat starts and ends on cloudy/overcast nights? Have you ever been stationed in Alaska, where the sunset can become a 1-hour long process?Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160350570530717935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-38160851371070881922013-01-02T12:27:18.860+02:002013-01-02T12:27:18.860+02:00What are "rabbincally decided times", Al...What are "rabbincally decided times", Alan?Shy Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09104227389210314550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-46006583306356930632013-01-01T11:19:35.770+02:002013-01-01T11:19:35.770+02:00Lea (Ma'Ale Adumim) is the most correct.
>...Lea (Ma'Ale Adumim) is the most correct.<br /><br />>> midnight is so artificial<br /><br />true, but as you would know if you actually worked the land for a living.... so is setting a fixed moment as being "sunrise" or "sunset"<br /><br />The further north (or south) you go from the equator, the fuzzier and fuzzier "sunrise" and "sunset" become. Why do you think that they need to publish the rabbinically-decided times? Exactly because you CANNOT really know just from observation.<br /><br />Some jurisdictions increase the criminal penalty if a break-and-enter was done at night. So they had to define a point in time called the "civil twilight".Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160350570530717935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-4131520327018938502012-12-29T21:47:49.480+02:002012-12-29T21:47:49.480+02:00I don't think the western calendar is "ch...I don't think the western calendar is "christian-based". it's based on the Roman Julian calendar, and then Gregory updated the leap year schedule in the 16th century. if it were "christian-based" then it would start with their major holiday instead of that being about a week before the end of the year. <br /><br />actually the date of christmas is based on saturnalia, which was based on the time of the solstice. the early church leaders didn't want the people to be celebrating the very-popular pagan saturnalia, so they moved their major holiday to that date, to give them something else to celebrate. christian dates are later add-ins, not originally part of the calendar.Leah, Maaleh Adumimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-108306018652179592012-12-29T17:50:33.816+02:002012-12-29T17:50:33.816+02:00Shy, I remember those shows in b/w of course. And...Shy, I remember those shows in b/w of course. And "midnight" is so artificial.<br />Charlie, "new years resolutions" are based on the Jewish Teshuva, which is the epitome of self-improvement.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-36006757844643762062012-12-28T17:57:39.922+02:002012-12-28T17:57:39.922+02:00Actually there is a long tradition of "New Ye...Actually there is a long tradition of "New Year's Resolutions" associated with the Gregorian Calendar New Year. It has been years since I've watched the New Year's Eve telecasts, but I do remember the hosts walking around the crowd asking individuals what they wanted to do differently in the upcoming year. And January 1 is a Holy Day of Obligation for Roman Catholics -- one of only about half dozen such days in the US!Charlie Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17667135360784254574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-67494257023453186892012-12-28T10:24:24.697+02:002012-12-28T10:24:24.697+02:00When I said I "watched" Lombardo or Time...When I said I "watched" Lombardo or Times Square, I meant on TV - black and white to be precise.Shy Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09104227389210314550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-28618464926499441372012-12-28T10:23:12.174+02:002012-12-28T10:23:12.174+02:00Even growing up in the US, the most New Year thing...Even growing up in the US, the most New Year thing I ever did was to watch Guy Lombardo or the ball at Time Square drop at midnight.<br /><br />Another important difference between the Jewish and secular calendar is that our dates roll over at sunset/sundown, not at midnight, as it was since the first day of creation. That also means that the change of date on the Jewish calendar gradually changes every day of the year, as daytime becomes longer and shorter through the 4 seasons.Shy Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09104227389210314550noreply@blogger.com