tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post1217037313981278340..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Is It True that Young Israel Discriminates Against Converts?Batyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-28542463125112460482010-07-09T05:27:02.141+03:002010-07-09T05:27:02.141+03:00I can't enforce it, but I will try to make sur...I can't enforce it, but I will try to make sure what I write is clear to those who don't know Hebrew.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-21422426347371511312010-07-09T04:50:16.141+03:002010-07-09T04:50:16.141+03:00Thank you, Batya:)Thank you, Batya:)Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-214321622064428472010-07-01T22:46:52.552+03:002010-07-01T22:46:52.552+03:00Keli, I agree. I try to translate everything and...Keli, I agree. I try to translate everything and wish others would do the same.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-85020450723673289622010-07-01T20:33:32.815+03:002010-07-01T20:33:32.815+03:00Why so many comments in Hebrew? Why can't they...Why so many comments in Hebrew? Why can't they be written in English:(Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-14837474275653362582010-07-01T18:18:25.102+03:002010-07-01T18:18:25.102+03:00sabba hillel, from the rambam:
אפילו אחר כמה דורות...sabba hillel, from the rambam:<br />אפילו אחר כמה דורות"-yoninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-30860072119849567122010-07-01T18:03:08.603+03:002010-07-01T18:03:08.603+03:00Were Shmaya and Avtalyon geirim or bnei geirim? I ...Were Shmaya and Avtalyon geirim or bnei geirim? I had thought that they were no geirim themselves, but bnei geirim, but I do not have any sources with me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08948061264564780402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-40830136253329540062010-07-01T11:48:01.577+03:002010-07-01T11:48:01.577+03:00yaak, Shy, I agree with yoni's point about pro...yaak, Shy, I agree with yoni's point about properly defining גר "ger." There's a difference between stam ger, stranger, goy and גר צדק "ger tzedek," a righteous convert.<br /><br />If a גר צדק "ger tzedek," can be a rabbi, then why can't he be a synagogue president?Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-92205777711489553382010-07-01T11:33:48.906+03:002010-07-01T11:33:48.906+03:00having said this, the rambam is certainly a legiti...having said this, the rambam is certainly a legitimate halachic authority, and the ONLY authority on many matters in hilchot melachim, though i'm not sure about this particualar one. young israel is surely using the rambam here and, while i disagree with their reading, they certainly have the right to interpret as they wish, they have their own rabbis.yoninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-84235611720666972682010-07-01T11:23:11.583+03:002010-07-01T11:23:11.583+03:00also, the rambam says not to take a leader from &q...also, the rambam says not to take a leader from "kahal gerim". at the time of the rambam there were "kehillot"- entire communities that had converted en masse and lived seperately from other jews. a "ger b'shaarecha", however, a ger who converted as an individual and integrated into the jewish community, could be considered "mekerev achicha" as per the rambam's requirement.yoninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-58467793613889479922010-07-01T11:16:01.466+03:002010-07-01T11:16:01.466+03:00shamaya and avtalyon.shamaya and avtalyon.yoninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-29660344638648683302010-07-01T09:17:41.322+03:002010-07-01T09:17:41.322+03:00Batya, you asked Yaak a question, while the answer...Batya, you asked Yaak a question, while the answer lies in the Rambam he posted. Read it again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-13455287885246787372010-07-01T09:16:27.917+03:002010-07-01T09:16:27.917+03:00Batya, consult your local Rabbi and get back to us...Batya, consult your local Rabbi and get back to us.<br /><br />I think Young Israel is correct on these points.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-61186788471564324672010-07-01T05:21:50.245+03:002010-07-01T05:21:50.245+03:00Bryan, the responsibility to marry a suitable woma...Bryan, the responsibility to marry a suitable woman is on the Cohen to be careful where he looks. Just this week a Cohen friend of mine told me of a cousin who married a convert and therefore couldn't join the rest of the clan on the "bima" to bless the congregants.<br /><br />yaak, is being president of a shul considered so lofty?Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-20858142110123939732010-07-01T01:35:54.717+03:002010-07-01T01:35:54.717+03:00The prohibition is mentioned in the Rambam Hilchot...The prohibition is mentioned in the <a href="http://www.mechon-mamre.org/i/e501.htm#5" rel="nofollow">Rambam Hilchot Melachim 1:4</a>:<br /><br />ה [ד] אין מעמידין מלך מקהל גרים, אפילו אחר כמה דורות--עד שתהיה אימו מישראל: שנאמר "לא תוכל לתת עליך איש נוכרי, אשר לא אחיך הוא" (דברים יז,טו). ולא למלכות בלבד, אלא לכל שררות שבישראל--לא שר צבא, ולא שר חמישים או שר עשרה, אפילו ממונה על אמת המים שמחלק ממנה לשדות; אין צריך לומר דיין או נשיא, שלא יהא אלא מישראל: שנאמר "מקרב אחיך, תשים עליך מלך" (שם)--כל משימות שאתה משים עליך, לא יהיו אלא "מקרב אחיך".yaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08179304707239865515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-24769617474097167942010-07-01T00:30:23.252+03:002010-07-01T00:30:23.252+03:00Batya, as much as we don't want to remind Geir...Batya, as much as we don't want to remind Geirim of their past, there are certain Halachot that apply to them that are unavoidable. See <a href="http://www.yeshiva.org.il/wiki/index.php?title=%D7%92%D7%A8_(%D7%A6%D7%93%D7%A7)" rel="nofollow">here</a>, for example:<br /><br />אסור למנות גר לתפקידים שיש בהם שררה<br /><br />which is the reason why a convert should not be given the position of president.yaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08179304707239865515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-31334624966438239982010-06-30T22:26:22.111+03:002010-06-30T22:26:22.111+03:00I think it's one thing to be the leader of a c...I think it's one thing to be the leader of a country and to be the president (not even rabbi) of a synagogue.<br /><br />That said, I wonder how one avoids the halakhic prohibition on reminding someone that she is a convert if said person wants to marry a Cohen. Wouldn't you have to break halakha to prevent the marriage (which would produce mamzers) from going through?Bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09099017972456573744noreply@blogger.com