tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post1178546488436338735..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: "Land for Peace" Debate Between Rabbi Riskin and Caroline GlickBatyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-62094725860035919572015-06-08T22:35:58.167+03:002015-06-08T22:35:58.167+03:00Gavriel, excellent point.Gavriel, excellent point.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-5219138896564274012015-06-08T21:31:30.380+03:002015-06-08T21:31:30.380+03:00"Land for Peace is a security issue, not a ha..."Land for Peace is a security issue, not a halachik issue."<br /><br />Obvious. He knows it's impossible to back "land for peace" according to Halacha.Gavriel Falcãohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08662788665927439772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-39179591387753162172015-05-28T19:57:55.635+03:002015-05-28T19:57:55.635+03:00YM, certainly not all rabbis agree, and each of us...YM, certainly not all rabbis agree, and each of us is to choose a rabbi to follow. <br /><br />A, Glick mentioned issues that concern ordinary Jews in Israel snd abroad. She asked Riskin for his halachik positions.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-23773680843213422172015-05-28T11:57:22.649+03:002015-05-28T11:57:22.649+03:00It seems to me that people are mixing up all diffe...It seems to me that people are mixing up all different issues outside of their area of expertise. Caroline Glick is an insightful political analyst, most worth listening to. However her opinions on issues of conversion and women poskot, are simply personal opinions, of no more value than anyone else's. Her expertise in one area does not translate into expertise on halachic issues. <br /><br />Regarding ownership of the holy land of Israel, of course it is a halachic issue. The Lubavitcher Rebbe said that it is forbidden to give up one inch of the land. And this ruling, if followed, would have given us a much better security situation. We should be offering the Arabs "peace for peace". The land is ours. All of it. You behave, we behave; you don't behave, oyvavoy lachem (woe betide you)". Unfortunately the Israeli lesson learned from the Holocaust is that we have an overriding moral obligation to be eternal victims. Instead of start-up nation, we should call ourselves screwed-up nation.<br /><br />Likewise with the "disengagement", which is actually a misnomer for the 2005 war against the settlers. (It was a war. The Israeli army sent in 50,000 troops and the other side caved in, in the face of the overwhelming force pitted against them.) As for its secular legality, rabbis are not legal experts (unless they are actually legal experts). They are qualified to express opinions on halacha, not on law. And again, issues of the land of Israel are decided by halacha, not by secular law. But even within the realm of secular law, the validity of certain issues override their legal framework: for example, apartheid was legal in South Africa but morally reprehensible, the same goes for China's one-child policy, with the ensuing forced abortions.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-60382017931909832592015-05-28T09:39:22.336+03:002015-05-28T09:39:22.336+03:00All decisions regarding any aspect of Jewish life ...All decisions regarding any aspect of Jewish life must be prismed through a Halachic perspective but that can be done in many ways and Halacha can go any way, at times, and even double-back on itself.<br />Rav JB Soloveitchik famously declared in 1968 that the question of yielding territory is akin to a medical issue. The Rabbi must deliberate with a doctor and likewise, he must deliberate with a prime minister or a general before making a decision. Rav Ovadia Yosef was very much a "pro-partition" proponent for decades and then reversed himself. Was he wrong at the beginning and correct at the end or right at the beginning and right at the end or wrong both times? Moreover, there are some Rabbis who simply don't have all the information and either are lax in getting it or uninterested.<br />Of course, one can suggest not to involve Rabbis at all in the political arena (which is why some people, although observant, don't join/vote Mizrachi).YMedadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14333122797414935958noreply@blogger.com