tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post7817036457815197025..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Bibi's All Time Worst CoalitionBatyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-6269414978359849962015-05-08T06:11:27.928+03:002015-05-08T06:11:27.928+03:00Old "NRP" was also called Mizrachi...
I...Old "NRP" was also called Mizrachi...<br /><br />I'm not for ethnic seperatism, and I didn't feel comfortable voting for the old NRP, because it was a religious party. Now Bennett has changed that. In places like Shiloh and in my family, those lines have blurred.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-87667083425289869482015-05-07T23:50:15.788+03:002015-05-07T23:50:15.788+03:00Totally agree with your first comments and let me ...<br />Totally agree with your first comments and let me just say I am in the religious right camp. <br /><br />Deri unlike say Eli Yishai indeed arouses both great passion in terms of likes and dislikes, just like Shas does. So no surprise in your latter comments. My point was not to overlook the sizeable number that are likes.<br />Like it or not at least a 1/4 million people do not believe that Deri has over worn his welcome.<br /><br />In terms of intensity I'd say the left hate Bibi and Bennett way more so.<br /><br />My description of Mizrahi/Sephardi was to try and cover the whole spectrum of those that do not fall under the Ashkenazi banner. Deri is North African, Rav Ovadia was Iraqi, and the true Sephardim ie S&P don't like anyone else using that. The Sidurim get round it by using the combination minhag hasephardim vay hadot hamizracah.<br />And that works.<br />Judahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-21236348904146872452015-05-06T18:40:00.176+03:002015-05-06T18:40:00.176+03:00The same secular Ashkenaz Leftist who have discrim...The same secular Ashkenaz Leftist who have discriminated against North African Jews can't abide people like me. <br /><br />And many North African (Mizrachi means two completely different things here in Israel) are embarrassed by Deri. He has over-worn his welcome. Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-65565045263134434102015-05-05T15:09:35.056+03:002015-05-05T15:09:35.056+03:00The problem with your post, in reference to your a...The problem with your post, in reference to your antagonism with Shas and Deri you need to stand on the other side of the street and understand the Mizrahi view.<br /><br />But first you need to recognise that the Mizrahi-Sephardim make up over 50% of the Jewish population and even more of those that are traditional and religious.<br /><br />Shas and Rav Ovadia gave a large part of this community pride and respect and drew them closer to observance and traditions. Not that they all voted Shas, but it was a major instrument in the revival of Sephardi pride. That brand loyalty still exists.<br /><br />I am not sure if you appreciate it, but there is not one significant Sephardi Rabbi in the entire dati leumi camp nor the Tzohor organisation. Are you not startled by that? Do you know why? It's because all this haredi/dati leumi/modern/reform/liberal/Zionist/anti Zionist nonsense are Ashkenazi created divisions. Largely Sephardim do not suffer from this sort of split. <br /><br />With regard to Deri, certainly at the time and to some extent even now, many believe he was a victim of the left wing secular establishment. they may be wrong but let us just say that they believe had his name been Rosenfield nothing would have happened. Things have changed now and there is more equity, but at the time it didn't seem so. <br /><br />So a good blogger should always try and explain the background to some comments.Judahnoreply@blogger.com