tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post7539831186935613037..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Mofaz, Beilin, Barak, Israel's Left (and Center) Ad Nausuem DON'T THINK About the Results, plus the latest LatmaBatyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-42094083725731410912014-04-15T22:56:32.783+03:002014-04-15T22:56:32.783+03:00Jason, there is no way that Israeli politicians an...Jason, there is no way that Israeli politicians and government workers would be able to resist turning districts into gerrymadered frankensteins. I'm a realist, not a dreamer.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-1732701010626785982014-04-15T18:31:47.862+03:002014-04-15T18:31:47.862+03:00Batya , please if you will, read this article abou...Batya , please if you will, read this article about gerrymandering in Virginia. Virginia is a small state. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/11/14/2941931/gerrymandering-virginia-republicans/ <br /><br />You are mistaken as are many in Israel to think gerrymandering is not useful. It works. Ms. Lurya is right on. Open your minds and see the good in American political systems. It is the only solution. No matter how good a politician Israel may have as a leader, without a system in place that protects electoral process, as democratic, nothing will change. The system Israel has in place creates the weakest in leadership.<br /><br />here is one more, but you can read more about it yourself if interested.Jason Wolfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-31392314484555547062014-01-08T23:10:54.255+02:002014-01-08T23:10:54.255+02:00then you do not understand gerrymandering, learn a...then you do not understand gerrymandering, learn about how its done here. Has nothing to do with size, Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08218187480611156038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-56066207173576499752012-06-24T07:02:43.807+03:002012-06-24T07:02:43.807+03:00deborah, in all honesty, I totally disagree with y...deborah, in all honesty, I totally disagree with you. I hate to think what Israeli politicians would do when making the districts. Didn't you ever hear of gerrymandering? Israel is too small and diverse a country for districts.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-87520646496883558322012-06-24T05:44:45.724+03:002012-06-24T05:44:45.724+03:00Israel needs direct territorial elections. No mor...Israel needs direct territorial elections. No more parties picking a list of MKS to choose from. Candidates, regardless of party affiliation, should be allowed to run in districts. This eliminates the problem of demographics as well. Arabs will have their own district leader, but they l be less radical, and more centrist due to the need to appeal to a wider audience, which may include others, ie Jews, Christians, Druze, etc. Without appeal, they dont get voted in. This goes for Jewish leaders in their represented districts as well. Also in the US we have jerrymandering, which allows for redistircting when necessary or applicable. Without direct elections, Israel's form of electoral systems breeds for weak leaders and corruption. I just found this article in a search, so that is why my response is so late! Shalom and best wishes to you and yours Batyadeborahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-62223652187444423872012-04-09T06:18:33.013+03:002012-04-09T06:18:33.013+03:00Deborah, so what should be done to neutralize them...Deborah, so what should be done to neutralize them?Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-26093052165868940832012-04-09T03:22:25.939+03:002012-04-09T03:22:25.939+03:00Barak wants power, and one way to get it is to be ...Barak wants power, and one way to get it is to be a big shot in Judea and Samaria, knocking off settlements left and right. He sees a future in the Knesset for himself. And it does not involve a coalition with the religious or the right wing. So the tougher he looks, the more he appeals to the left wingers. Mofaz and him want the same thing, so they should make beautiful music together, storm trooping their way down the road 60 through the settlements, tearing them up one by one. Divide and conquer is the best way, if you ask them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-30347261099990623012012-04-09T03:12:35.642+03:002012-04-09T03:12:35.642+03:00Your right, peace is not profitable to the parties...Your right, peace is not profitable to the parties involves. The PA and Hamas are paid to keep a war of attrition going. The EU and US pay billions to keep the propaganda war to delegitimize israel going, viral, that is. It is so viral that our own communities in the diaspora have been infiltrated. Hillel , the campus jewish organization in the US, is now completely neutered by the presence of the Muslim Student Union. If the right were organized and not so damn splintered, if they had a strong leader or rwo or three, then perhaps they would be a formidable challenge. But as fractured as they are, we don't have a chance. Organization the right is needed desperately. The goal to unify is pretty basic, our future, and that of our childrens. As Jews.deborah luryanoreply@blogger.com