tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post7039673845356692476..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Why Prayer at Tel Shiloh Is Better Than At A GraveBatyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-11268650968870825692011-12-31T22:53:31.345+02:002011-12-31T22:53:31.345+02:00Some people get confused about to where to direct ...Some people get confused about to where to direct prayers.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-20105504372529275822011-12-31T21:27:06.130+02:002011-12-31T21:27:06.130+02:00On the subject of praying at other's grave sit...On the subject of praying at other's grave sites, I've always had that opinion to safeguard my prayers to HaShem only.<br />Of course, we want the best for our deceased loved ones, but I started the habit of praying to HaShem over their grave vs. trying to have a spiritual chat with the deceased. That said, Avraham holds a special place in my heart and I still bless him in my morning prayers even though his life is over. <br />Just a reminder: Everything is important. Including this chat subject, because this is REAL (Emet) for us, and connects us to life.<br />Baruch HaShem.Ezrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15065357947232851150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-30053811614318154692011-12-19T10:30:33.840+02:002011-12-19T10:30:33.840+02:00a, yes, Shiloh is a treasure. G-d willing, more p...a, yes, Shiloh is a treasure. G-d willing, more people will realize its importance.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-23651381775499916042011-12-19T10:09:24.460+02:002011-12-19T10:09:24.460+02:00What a beautiful thing!!! I love Tel Shilo and whe...What a beautiful thing!!! I love Tel Shilo and when I give presentations and speeches about it, I always stress how it's incredible - unfortunately - that many people don't even know it still exists, or where it is on the map! I think that Shilo must be included in every trip to Israel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-54520495916792997122011-09-25T11:43:41.511+03:002011-09-25T11:43:41.511+03:00Avi, stay in touch. Maybe we can meet here in Hol...Avi, stay in touch. Maybe we can meet here in Holy ShilohBatyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-52218668770644544992011-09-25T11:31:55.971+03:002011-09-25T11:31:55.971+03:00Chazak u baruch Batya for your efforts to get more...Chazak u baruch Batya for your efforts to get more Jews to Shiloh. I'm amazed- actually ashamed- that most Jews don't realize how holy Shiloh is and that our leaders are even considering giving a place where the shechinah was for 369 years to the so-called Palestinians. I'm planning a trip to Israel in December and Shiloh is on the top of my list! It would be an honor to meet you! AviAvifromParisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-55039313534512558262011-09-25T00:15:42.271+03:002011-09-25T00:15:42.271+03:00I don't boycott the graves, but I find more in...I don't boycott the graves, but I find more inspiration at Tel Shiloh.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-58114291372891836152011-09-25T00:02:26.381+03:002011-09-25T00:02:26.381+03:00Batya, I'm not a tomb-hopper myself.
However,...Batya, I'm not a tomb-hopper myself.<br /><br />However, there is a lot of inspiration to derive when visiting this or that grave of a well known person (not only Jews).<br /><br />The best for me was when I was in Hevron for a Shabbat and it dawned on me as I started the Shmonah Esrei that when I say "the G-d, of Avraham, the G-d of Yitzchak and the G-d of Yaacov", I can actually point to the Patriarch's graves around me in every direction.<br /><br />I would not dream of wasting money on a grave hopping trip abroad but I would consider one where you go to the many that are in this country, get a good historical teaching at each site about the person buried there and daven or read some Tehilim at each site. But this is a once in a decade or 2 kind of trip.<br /><br />IMO, Rav Nachman is rolling over in his grave from the nonsense they've made out of traveling to Uman to visit his grave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-45972516502764399702011-09-24T22:40:20.898+03:002011-09-24T22:40:20.898+03:00Thanks, Shy, is it better than talking to "th...Thanks, Shy, is it better than talking to "the wall?"<br /><br />When will we wisen up?<br /><br />G-d has explained it all so clearly. Why don't we listen?Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-24635435488430342072011-09-24T22:35:10.641+03:002011-09-24T22:35:10.641+03:00Batya, I partially agree with you. It's proble...Batya, I partially agree with you. It's problematic in the way praying at graves is over-stressed and in how people mistakenly think they are supposed to pray to the deceased, which is halachically oh so wrong.<br /><br />I believe the first example of praying at the tombs of the righteous is Calve Ben Yefuneh, who went out of his way to pray in Hevron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-89323931613316605462011-09-24T20:21:51.267+03:002011-09-24T20:21:51.267+03:00a, even though it's popular and accepted to pr...a, even though it's popular and accepted to pray at graves, it's still problematic.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-36417384241567754932011-09-24T20:10:57.572+03:002011-09-24T20:10:57.572+03:00It's very nice what you are doing, but to inti...It's very nice what you are doing, but to intimate that jews who go to daven at Kevarim are doing something wrong is baseless. I guess all the Lubavitchers who go to the Ohel, all the Beslovers who go to Uman and anyone else who goes to Maarat Hamechpelah or Shimon Bar Yochai in Meron are sinning... No offense, but I will rely on the abundance of RABBEIM who hold that it is a Mitzvah to go to Kevarim and daven that in the Zechus of the tzaddik who lies there, Hashem should help us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-69847967116825179992011-09-24T19:44:58.192+03:002011-09-24T19:44:58.192+03:00Moriah, thanks
I hope you'll make it to Israel...Moriah, thanks<br />I hope you'll make it to Israel to pray with us at Tel Shiloh. No go-between, just G-d.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-69890811345475772522011-09-23T17:51:12.092+03:002011-09-23T17:51:12.092+03:00"The more I think about it, the more I believ..."The more I think about it, the more I believe that we're not supposed to pray at graves and tombs, no matter how righteous the dead person was."<br /><br />I agree with you.There is something disturbing about well known, righteous Israeli rabbis encouraging Jews to leave Israel so they can pray and party at a grave in Uman for Rosh Hashana! The Ukranians had a big protest against it. It feels wrong in my gut. We don't need a go-between to take our prayers to Hashem..Moriahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10031303390387367887noreply@blogger.com