tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post690847055611943349..comments2024-03-27T16:27:03.093+02:00Comments on Shiloh Musings: Just Before The RiotsBatyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-88117813728485058012012-01-17T18:43:31.897+02:002012-01-17T18:43:31.897+02:00Let it first go through channels for a bit to see ...Let it first go through channels for a bit to see if the police did their job. There was no reason to demonstrate on the streets. Do those people who rioted and ordered the demonstrations know something the police didn't.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-29141978079649528932012-01-17T08:24:48.800+02:002012-01-17T08:24:48.800+02:00Shalom!
I would say that one shouldn't burn tr...Shalom!<br />I would say that one shouldn't burn trash bins in response to an arrest of this sort. If due process isn't followed during an arrest, or the charges are simply beyond ridiculous, then protests are in order, although burning trash bins in your own neighborhood probably isn't the best means of protest.<br />In this case the charges were "common" white-collar crimes. If it's difficult to prove that the men are innocent, there's a big problem in the accounting department(s?) of the charity(ies?).Hadassanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-47014969137415052832012-01-17T05:24:32.615+02:002012-01-17T05:24:32.615+02:00a, there are two pictures up. One isn't of yo...a, there are two pictures up. One isn't of young American kids. And if those young guys are American kids, then their parents may want to transfer them to a yeshiva from which they won't have such activities.<br /><br />Ellen and Esther, There's no need to burn the trash bins in reaction to an arrest. As Hadassa said the community should be trying to prove them innocent. It's a well-known fact that there's a lot of corruption in fund-raising. American (non-Jewish) npo's give terribly high salaries to its top employees and a very small percentage of the money raised goes to its stated aims.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-27201465708933447202012-01-17T01:53:56.795+02:002012-01-17T01:53:56.795+02:00Shalom!
IMHO the blog is more about the riot, not ...Shalom!<br />IMHO the blog is more about the riot, not about the accusations, which indeed have not been proven. Is this a normal reaction for Torah observant Jews to have when accused of such offenses? They should be devoting their energies to proving the innocence of the arrestees. <br />Yes, we should "judge on the side of merit", however, unfortunately the offenses mentioned are by no means unknown in the community in question, which should be setting an example for all Jews.Hadassanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-58076200984550147502012-01-16T14:37:00.422+02:002012-01-16T14:37:00.422+02:00bs"d
why would you automatically assume that...bs"d<br /><br />why would you automatically assume that the charedim arrested are guilty? even without the historical enmity between police and mea shearim, and media spin factor, is it not an obligation to judge on the side of merit when yirei shomayim are accused? the chofetz chayim said all manner of lashon hara are found in newspapers. does that include blogs?esthernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-52677683671325502052012-01-16T14:08:12.874+02:002012-01-16T14:08:12.874+02:00heh. that picture was of *american* yeshiva kids ...heh. that picture was of *american* yeshiva kids studying in israel!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-91915470293880762972012-01-16T12:37:32.623+02:002012-01-16T12:37:32.623+02:00Certainly we've all seen an increasing number ...Certainly we've all seen an increasing number of Chareidim contributing to this country everywhere and in every way in the public, private, and social sectors. A lot have taken the lead with regards to worthy and efficient charitable, educational and social projects. And there's successful and honest business entrepreuners, medical and legal professionals among the black hats and beards (and plenty of working<br />women),too. Let's be fair.<br /><br />I like to chalk up this mess, within the Chareidi sector, to growing pains. It's a transitional stage as they struggle to find their way and their place in Israeli society. We've seen rioting like this before - remember the Israeli black panther riots of the early 1970's?<br /><br />The police should get the idiots and thugs off the streets. Hopefully that will make room for some articulate spokepersons<br />(likely spokesMEN)who can state<br />their case in a civil manner.<br /><br />Unfortunately the incredible silence of the Chareidi rabbis is a bit deafening.ellennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-74416302029843894742012-01-16T11:13:29.814+02:002012-01-16T11:13:29.814+02:00Hadassa, thanks
No doubt that the chareidim are ju...Hadassa, thanks<br />No doubt that the chareidim are just as selective about the halachot they follow as the Reform, Conservative etc. <br /><br />Yes, I consider the one Hadassa mentioned, plus derech eretz etc, helping the old/infirm-including opposite sex to be important mizvot.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-68427740256607518752012-01-16T11:03:05.717+02:002012-01-16T11:03:05.717+02:00Shalom!
Ethics of the Fathers 2:2 "Rabban Gam...Shalom!<br />Ethics of the Fathers 2:2 "Rabban Gamliel the son of Rabbi Judah HaNassi, says: Torah study is good together with an occupation,for the exertion of them both makes sin forgotten. All Torah study that is not joined with work will cease in the end, and leads to sin." Artscroll translation<br />Unfortunately in recent years we've seen the outcome of not following Rabban Gamliel's advice. Do any hareidim think about how none of the Talmudic Sages that they so earnestly study lived off the dole?Hadassanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-6902121929565353482012-01-16T09:32:15.626+02:002012-01-16T09:32:15.626+02:00Hah! They wouldn't dare touch me! I'm an...Hah! They wouldn't dare touch me! I'm an old lady.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7040911.post-62710749829667200832012-01-16T08:34:35.307+02:002012-01-16T08:34:35.307+02:00Did you escape via the women's sidewalk?
:)Did you escape via the women's sidewalk?<br /><br />:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com